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Old November 12th, 2000, 06:07 PM
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You people need to get a life and get a PC. Macs are great and pretty, yet support nothing. OS X is just like Win95 when it came out. All kinds of problems that will take years to fix. Apple didn't even write OS X completely. It's just a Unix flavor with a Photoshop make over.
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You do have a valid point with saying that MacOS X is like Windows 95 because there are problems that may take years to fix. There are currently problems, and there will most likely be problems for a while. However, I don't think that you can just say that MacOS X sucks. When it is completed, it may be better than Win95, but maybe not. One thing that Microsoft has proven a couple times is that sometimes *breaking* things is better than backwards compatibility. MacOS X is definitely breaking things. The future of the Macintosh platform is up in the air, and it could go either way-a better system, or a worse system.

I'm not going to sit here and bash any OS. My stance is that every operating system is better for certain purposes.
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Old November 13th, 2000, 06:06 AM
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"apple didn't write OS X completely."
^--hey henry770, are you stupid? what is the name of this software? it's a <b>beta</b>! it's development software. of course apple hasn't finished it yet. that just goes to show the ignorance of PC users...
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re: MacOsx sucks

hmmm, I work on Macs since the Centris 650, quite a long time. now I use Mac and a Windows based system.
Windows 2000 is stable and acceptable. The MacOsX beta is also very nice - I prefer it to windows, cause I have also some exprience with linux: so it's a very nice combination of both.
However I see the problem in the hardware. I bought a MAC G4 450 in June and a AMD 900 Mhz a few weeks later. The AMD System was only 40% priced on the Macbox, in spite the fact, that it includes all the nice features like a DVD player, TV-ot, and so on. But the problem is, that the PC system is between 50 and 100% faster using for example Photoshop filters !!! (I have more RAM in the MACbox).
That's in my opnion the real problem for Mac, much more expensive for a quite slow hardware.
I like Macs, but the company should adapt MaxOsX for PCs, too. If not, I think they won't survive the next 5 years.
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I hate to get involved in a debate over what sucks or not, but here's my 2 cents anyway:

Yes, OS X is a big break like Windows 95 was, and will probably face the same sorts of problems. It takes time to track down bugs, etc. after you rewrite an entire operating system. Still, I think the progress made in OS X is great, and am expecting a MUCH more polished OS by the time 1.0 is released. Using OS X for the last 5 months, I've seen a far more stable OS than the Classic MacOS ever was.

Yes, Apple did not write most of OS X. Almost the entire foundation was culled from Next, BSD, etc. So what? If it makes a better OS, then its a good idea. Plus, if Macs didn't support a whole lot of software before, now they do. In one environment, I can run classic MacOS, OS X, UNIX, and Java apps.

As for the "photoshop makeover", I don't see what's wrong with having a nice looking GUI frontend to your nice new OS. If you really don't like the GUI, log in as '>console' and enjoy the beautiful command line.

And yeh, Mac hardware is slow and expensive. I don't care what Apple ports OS X to, as long as it runs faster and doesn't cost me twice what I'd pay for a PC. Those Athlon's are getting faster every day, and there's only so many G4's Apple can cram in a box. No amount of marketing can make up for chips running at half the clock speed.
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Hmmm....

OS X sux ???
Well, all this is in the eye of the beholder kind of discussion.
I can't argue with the guy with the cube & the 900Mhz AMD,
it's all perception. If you want to have a valid commparison, I suggest
having the same configuration, or really close to it so that you can actually compare
accuratelly.

As far as OS X.
X was written by apple indirrectly. Who was the president and founder of NeXT ?
Non other than steve Jobs. Who is the CEO of apple now ?? Steve Jobs. It's true that
OS X is a BSD flavor, but who cares ? BSD is a very stable and secure OS.

As pointed out by the guy above me, a nice GUI is something to like about an OS.
Who the heck wants to use an ugly OS ?

and lastly.
I disagree that it will take OS X years to work out the bugs. While it is a radical
departure from the original MacOS, the point of the beta to be distributed out in the public so much in advance is to have developpers make drivers for devices, for people to start making
and porting programs, AND to crush as many bugs in the OS as possible before the
final release's date of shipping. Having the general public test it out is good because it is not a simulation of real life situations, it IS real life and so the bugs can be found.

Anyway, woudl all the PC people please leave and take tehir idiocy with them
because they are not going to change their mind settings no matter what.
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henry770 is Daniel Henry a student at SPSU. He runs win 2k and has reinstalled it over 20 times. He is one of those morons that touchs the cupcake hooked up to the electric generator and doesn't learn his lesson. If you would like to talk to him his phone number is (770) 499-2552. You can also send him an e-mail at dhenry@spsu.edu. The reason I know all this is because I am also a student at SPSU and I am a friend of his roomates.
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hehe, i like such macusers ;)
i think i will mail him (or call)
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