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Old March 13th, 2002, 12:13 AM
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Talking Mozilla 0.9.9

For those of you who have no problems with Mozilla or Netscape...

http://www.versiontracker.com/morein...9472&db=macosx

I just downloaded the 0.9.9 version (OSX) some hours ago and been using it non-stop since.
What problems I had with the previous version (a few irks like it would forget it's window size, some crashes, etc.) seem to all be gone. Seems to even have a sligh speed increase as well.

I'm very happy with this version! Finally! A 'Netscape' browser that I actually like using! That's a first!

Also it has a Popup Killer built in! SWEET!

I may be speaking prematurely - but I may never use Internet Exploder again (aside from Website testing and whatnot).

I love Mozilla!
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Old March 13th, 2002, 01:38 AM
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I was plesantly surprised to find that the scrolling is a little bit faster in this release than the nightly build I had downloaded less than a week ago. Maybe it's just my mind but it does seem faster. Still kinda depressing to look at, even with the best themes. I want an aqua look. Also, not necessarly a fault in Moz, but Omni has spell checking within forms like this which is better.

Still, this beats IE by far and competes with Omni (in my humble opinion) for first. Gotta add the plug for chimera tho that's going to rule
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Old March 13th, 2002, 05:09 AM
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how's this?

ok, i just want to be sure that anyone who uses mozilla understands that it is a developmental browser that directly aids in the building of future versions of netscape and now aol's browsers. if you do not mind helping them out, then try it.
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Old March 13th, 2002, 06:06 AM
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Hey ED.

Please SHUT UP! I dont care if they kill 100 puppys a day for makin it or they support OsamaBinLaden. It works for me and thats all I need!
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Mozilla...

The 0.9.9 release is very good. I'm amazed at how stable it is compared with IE 5.1 and OW 4.1. Mozilla rarely crashes on me, whereas IE 5.1 and OW 4.1 crash very frequently.

The areas I'd like to see the Mac developers concentrate on before the 1.0 release are:

1) Improved application speed. The rendering of pages is lightning fast, but the applications responsiveness isn't . Menu scrolling, typing in text fields, page scrolling, etc could all stand to be improved.

2) Improve the "Classic" skin to be more Aqua compliant. Get rid of the icons and replace them with something that fits within the Aqua scheme.

That's about it. Mozilla has been my everyday browser now since the 0.9.8 release. At the moment, it is the most stable, most complete, fastest, and most compliant web browser available for OS X.

As for Ed's continued complaints about the efforts of Mozilla helping Netscape/AOL. Consider this...

Mac IE has been stuck at version 5 for almost 3 years now. Microsoft's OS X effort was nothing more than a carbonization of the existing IE client with no new features. Microsoft clearly isn't all too interested in keeping pace with their Mac browser. And why should they? With OS X, IE is the only browser that ships with the OS.

But consider the new playing field. As of this summer, Apple is no longer obligated by the '97 browser agreement to make IE the default Mac browser. With Mozilla complete, Apple will have serious leveraging power over Microsoft to get them to put more resources in to developing Mac IE. Everybody wins.

You see, competition is a good thing.
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Actually - I just downloaded Mozilla for use at home - I *hate* netscape - to me it's turned into horrible buggy bloatware, but I *love* Mozilla... Some suggestions though:

1) Yes, interface speed needs to be incredibly increased - even at the cost of not being able to customize the skin - I spend MUCH more time right clicking, menu switching, going from email to email than I actually spend rendering pages. Once a page is rendered - it's done, and I can read it at leasure.

2) Tabbed browser windows are great Please, however, make a simple - keyboard+leftclick shortcut for opening in tabs... say shft/ctrl click. Since I rarely use the back button (I open *everything* in a new window) I would find this a great timesaver.

3) Where's the popup killer? I can't find it.

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Quote:
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3) Where's the popup killer? I can't find it.

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Brian, under Preferences it's in Advanced / Scripts & Windows.
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I do see Ed's point of view and I actually do agree with him (as I type this using Mozilla ).

But my #1 mission since I bought my Mac was to get away from all Gates software as soon as possible!

I've used Apple's Mail app since day one (but I tried using Eudora for a while until I finally decided that the Apple version was a totally different version than the Windows version I was used to - Apple's Mail App I feel is more like Eudora's Windows version! ), so I haven't even touched MS's Outlook Express on the Mac (and it's been ages on the PC).

I've tried just about all other web browsers and they where just not up to par as far as I was concerned - and neither was Mozilla before 0.9.8 so I was using IE and was NOT happy about it!

Sure I don't like AOHELL, and I am not happy they aquired Netscape (and I wish Mozilla was not part of Netscape)... I am using an Evil to get rid of a greater Evil... and some day I will ditch Netscape/Mozilla once another browser is able to render and play nice.

Until then - I'm using Mozilla!
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