image
image

|


Go Back   macosx.com > Content & Information > Apple News, Rumors & Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old March 28th, 2002, 02:05 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 92
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
jaredbkt is on a distinguished road
Question AppleWorks 7

Has anyone heard any info about AppleWorks 7? I'm wondering if and when it will be released, what features, a better UI? (hopefully), etc. Thanks.

Jared
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old March 28th, 2002, 03:43 AM
simX's Avatar
Unofficial Mac Genius
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 2,183
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
simX is on a distinguished road
No kidding. A better OS X UI, and support for dang long filenames already!
__________________
-- simX

Get Memory Usage Getter, the only Mac OS X utility that graphically displays the memory usage of your open processes! http://homepage.mac.com/simx/

450 MHz G4 Cube | 15" flat-panel Apple Studio Display | 896 MB RAM | Que! Fire 12x10x32x FireWire CD-RW | OS X 10.1.5 Build 5S66 | Mac OS 9.2.2 | Telex M-560 Microphone | Epson Stylus Color 777 | TI-Graph Link USB | Pro Speakers/Mouse/Keyboard | Airport card | iPod

"Some people's minds are like cement: all mixed up and permanently set..." -- Andrew Welch, el Presidente, Ambrosia Software, Inc.

"You know that first hit of heroin is free." -- Scott McNealy, Sun Microsystem's CEO, on Microsoft's .NET .

"The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -- Unknown
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 30th, 2002, 10:49 PM
ABassCube's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 82
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ABassCube is on a distinguished road
Yeah, I really want Apple to release AppleWorks 7. I need a really good alternative to Word X. And SimX, I've been thinking that exact same thing since I got OS X: It's great to finally have long file name support in the Finder, but what the hell's the point when no other app supports it?! Not even Word supports it, and it's Cocoa (or at least I think it is). I don't think OmniWeb supports it either.

If AppleWorks had long file name support, a reliable AutoSave, and a better interface, I would switch from Word in a second. Some variation of Word's AutoText would be nice too. And what ever happened to macros. It just disappeared from AppleWorks when it came to OS X.

I'm kind of annoyed at Apple: they seem to be completely ignoring AppleWorks. There haven't been any new updates since 6.2, which was at least a year ago.

I think Apple might release AppleWorks 7 with 10.2, hopefully with a completely overhauled interface (the old one is getting really old).

Adam
__________________
"No matter how much you polish a piece of crap, the best you can get is a shiny piece of crap."
--Rik Myslewski talking about Windows XP
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 31st, 2002, 12:29 AM
phatsharpie's Avatar
Futuristic Robotic Cat
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the future, where robotic cats thrive...
Posts: 543
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
phatsharpie is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally posted by ABassCube
Not even Word supports it, and it's Cocoa (or at least I think it is). I don't think OmniWeb supports it either.
Office and Word v.X are actually Carbon apps, even though they can't be ran under OS 9... I don't know why.

-B
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 31st, 2002, 09:35 AM
marmoset's Avatar
Official Volunteer
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Ecorse, MI USA
Posts: 166
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
marmoset is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally posted by phatsharpie


Office and Word v.X are actually Carbon apps, even though they can't be ran under OS 9... I don't know why.

-B
A fair number of Carbon apps (e.g. iTunes, Fizzilla-MachO) are what are called Mach-O executables, meaning that, though they use the Carbon interface libraries, they are Unix applications on the back end (rather than being CFM applications which wil run on OS 9.) Developers do this strictly for performance reasons.
__________________
iMac DV+ (Sage), 450MHz G3
512MB RAM, 20GB HD (ATA), DVD (ATA)
ProductName: Mac OS X
ProductVersion: 10.1.4
BuildVersion: 5Q125
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 31st, 2002, 10:33 AM
ABassCube's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 82
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ABassCube is on a distinguished road
So Word is carbon. Based on this info, one would think that AppleWorks and Word don't support long file names because they're carbon, and you'd think that any Cocoa app would support them, but OmniWeb doesn't. Actually, OmniWeb does something weird: If you save a web page, there's no limit on how long the file name can be, but if it's too long, it comes up with text actually overlapping each other in the download manager, and it doesn't save.

So far, I don't think anything except the Finder supports long file names. Hopefully Apple will support long file names in Cocoa in 10.2.
__________________
"No matter how much you polish a piece of crap, the best you can get is a shiny piece of crap."
--Rik Myslewski talking about Windows XP
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old April 1st, 2002, 08:56 PM
Dak RIT's Avatar
Missing Intelligence
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Darmstadt, Germany
Posts: 96
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Dak RIT is on a distinguished road
If you want my not so humble opinion, I've assumed AppleWorks was dead since ClarisWorks 5. I believe this was an unwritten agreement between billg and his Steveness back in '97.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old April 1st, 2002, 11:45 PM
simX's Avatar
Unofficial Mac Genius
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 2,183
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
simX is on a distinguished road
I like AppleWorks. It's not packed with useless features (especially that papilionaceous paper clip!). The interface got a little big in AppleWorks 6, but I sure hope that Apple is still working on AppleWorks 7, because I honestly like it better than word.

And yes, OmniWeb supports long file names. I think all Cocoa applications natively support them, while Carbon applications need to specifically add the feature.

Oh, and by the way, AppleWorks 6.2.2 was released on November 29th, 2001. So it's only been 4 months.
__________________
-- simX

Get Memory Usage Getter, the only Mac OS X utility that graphically displays the memory usage of your open processes! http://homepage.mac.com/simx/

450 MHz G4 Cube | 15" flat-panel Apple Studio Display | 896 MB RAM | Que! Fire 12x10x32x FireWire CD-RW | OS X 10.1.5 Build 5S66 | Mac OS 9.2.2 | Telex M-560 Microphone | Epson Stylus Color 777 | TI-Graph Link USB | Pro Speakers/Mouse/Keyboard | Airport card | iPod

"Some people's minds are like cement: all mixed up and permanently set..." -- Andrew Welch, el Presidente, Ambrosia Software, Inc.

"You know that first hit of heroin is free." -- Scott McNealy, Sun Microsystem's CEO, on Microsoft's .NET .

"The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -- Unknown
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AppleWorks Order holding me up against deadline! Boyko Opinions, & Open Letters 9 March 31st, 2002 11:02 AM
AppleWorks 6.1.2 Woes noei24 Mac Classic System & Software 2 March 2nd, 2002 08:01 AM
AppleWorks 6.2.1 & OS X 10.1 morm Mac OS X System & Mac Software 5 December 12th, 2001 12:39 AM
How come AppleWorks has become useless in 10.1? Jim Paradise Mac OS X System & Mac Software 3 December 12th, 2001 12:32 AM
alternative to office and appleworks? weric Mac OS X System & Mac Software 0 October 2nd, 2001 08:31 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:13 AM.


Mac Support® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright 2000-2008 DigitalCrowd, Inc.