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Old May 20th, 2002, 07:21 PM
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‘Copy-proof’ CDs not copy proof.

This is Soo funny..

they still don't have a "secure" copy-proof cd

http://www.msnbc.com/news/754854.asp?0si=-

" Technology buffs have cracked music publishing giant Sony Music’s elaborate disc copy-protection technology with a decidedly low-tech method: scribbling around the rim of a disk with a felt-tip marker."

Monday, Reuters obtained an ordinary copy of Celine Dion’s newest release “A New Day Has Come,” which comes embedded with Sony’s “Key2Audio” technology.
*After an initial attempt to play the disc on a PC resulted in failure, the edge of the shiny side of the disc was blackened out with a felt tip marker. The second attempt with the marked-up CD played and copied to the hard drive without a hitch.



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Old May 20th, 2002, 09:36 PM
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i was excited about this until I read that he copy protection scheme has been updates so you cannot see the line between the data and the music.
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they will keep trying to make these so called copy proof CDs but 10$ says that within a month of each "new improved" copy protection measure release, some method of getting past it will appear. Be it printable stencil for each CD or whatever happens to be the protection scheme. As long as it is still readable in standard cd players it will be hackable and people probably won't switch from the standard cd player just for some copy protection scheme.
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The Record Industry should sell MP3 tracks for $1 a piece on line for about 192 encoded quality. You can bet I'd buy a lot more audio discs. But $25 for a CD I only want one song off of!? Um, no.
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I don't know about anyone else, but I listen to MP3s almost exclusively. I have a set of Monsoon speakers hooked up to my G4, and my stereo collects dust. I buy CDs. I'l be purchasing 1 or 2 today. But, if I find out that one of the CDs I want has copy-protection, I'll be on Limewire downloading it. You know it's not impossible to copy these CDs, and they will be floating around online. The CD is useless to me if I can't get it onto my computer or iPod.

I don't know how many people there are who share my philosphy on MP3s but if there many at all, this is going to backfire horribly. I have never seen an industry to go so far out of its way to keep people from getting what they want. They need to realize that that is not a good business model.
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I agree totally with dlookus. When I buy a CD, the first thing I do is rip a high quality MP3. My iBook is plugged into my stereo and I have an MP3 player on my cellphone.

NB it is possible to copy these 'CDs' (for want of a better name). However it is not possible to convert them from one format to another (unless hacked of course). I believe Sun used to protect their install CDs in a similar manner (change the sector size or something), but using the 'dd' command in UNIX it is possible to create a backup of these CDs. I have managed to get the dd command to read the CD, but I have not managed to be able to write the data anywhere at the moment (try to put it to file system and the sector size is wrong).

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Same thing here. I barely ever use my stereo except as an alarm in the morning... I hooked up my computer to a set of Altec Lansing ATP3s and the sound quality and realism is better than what you get from a stereo. If it's not on my iPod or hard drive, I don't listen to it.
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My stereo is of quite high quality and I use it for my video projector (5.5 meters is a good, reasonable screen width for good movies) and - of course - for music.

Anyway, you can still use a felt tip marker, even if you don't see the line. If you scribble over the last track in error (CDs have the index at the center and the first track next to that) you'll only lose the last track. So you'd best start to scribble out a small part and if it's not enough, scribble out some more. Very analogue, I know, but it'll work.
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