Comments Like This... (Why Mac's Still Better)

[fryke]

As read on Slashdot: --- An anonymous reader writes "With upcoming chipsets such as the SiS648 claiming support for the latest AGP8X standard, we asked ourselves if there were any performance benefits. We took the SiS648 and Xabre 400 reference boards, modified them and compared the results." I can't even get 4x stable under XP, so I figure 8x is half as likely to let me play NWN ---

The last line makes me think that we're still better off with the Mac. Plus other things. A friend of mine had to go to the dark side (for a while) because he needed Windows 2000 for the job. Those were our mutual experiences:

1) He bought a Cisco wireless card and we wanted to surf on my wireless network. Incredibly weird configuration on Windows 2000, it worked sometimes, sometimes it just didn't on his IBM Thinkpad X20. My TiBook always just worked. Out of the box.

2) He bought a bluetooth card for his X20, because he had an Ericsson, bluetooth enabled phone. Same thing as with the wireless network card: It worked, then it didn't - and as soon as he added a third thingie (a printer adapter for his HP printer): Everything bluetooth stopped working.

3) I bought a CD-Rewritable. No-Name, Firewire. Worked out of the box with Toast and with Finder & iTunes after some iTunes CD Burning update. He bought a Freecom Traveller USB & Firewire CDRW. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Plus driver installation hell.

Btw. I've been a professional Mac & PC supporter, so I've actually got some experience with DriverHell™ (Windows 2000: First nobody supported it, and when XP came along, the drivers for 2000 finally started arriving, although they don't always work).

But the comment on /. about AGP 4x 'sometimes not working' really got me thinking. I rather have fun working 12 hours on a 'slow' computer (as many of you say when claiming X86 the better platform) than spending half of my time configuring the computer and shouting at it.

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Yes, we're lucky on stuff that just works, but the influence od azosx has got to me. We still have to wait longer for compatibility. Bluetooth may work for you, but think how late it came for Mac...

That combined with the way Apple are behaving (are they gonna change their name to MicroApple?) makes me really wonder if it's worth it. I might find myself buying a PC next time I buy a computer.
That said, it's a long time till I'll buy a new computer cause I don't need a new now and there's plenty of time for Apple to get mack in to my good book.

[toast]

In my -humble- opinion, the Mac stays the best choice as far as what I know of computers, taht is computer design, is concerned.

I feel better with the Mac. I'm not the only one: check out www.desktoppublishing.com forums to learn through a bunch of old topics that Mac still rules in DTP for many reasons: stability, no viruses, better color management, simplicity of the whole.

What stinks with Mac is:
1) The new Microsoft-like behaviour.
2) The hardware. It's just SLOW. I'll need to get some more RAM to make OSX move at decent speed.

Mac also lets my girlfriend use the computer to browse and check mail in a simple, nice interface. That's what she needs, being very representative of the basic customer.

Yes, we're better with Macs. And some mystery is: I feel more creative with them. That's why I'll stick to them.

[azosx]

But the comment on /. about AGP 4x 'sometimes not working' really got me thinking. I rather have fun working 12 hours on a 'slow' computer (as many of you say when claiming X86 the better platform) than spending half of my time configuring the computer and shouting at it.

"I can't even get 4x stable under XP, so I figure 8x is half as likely to let me play NWN"

This was posted by CmdrTaco, not the anonymous reader, as a follow up to this quote attached to a post from earlier this month.

"I was gonna say something witty and insightful here, but I can't think of anything. At least I can't make a windows machine stable enough to run Neverwinter or my brain would be toast."

So some anti-MS idiot can't run NWN in Windows, thus Macs are better? CmdrTaco is the biggest MS basher on Slashdot. If what he says about Windows really gets you thinking, well, nevermind.

BTW, I've run NWN on my PC with 4x AGP with no problems. Could it be that this is just an isolated incident?

I can't play my Castaway DVD on my G4 Cube but it plays on my PC flawlessly. PCs must be better then according to your logic? It runs fine on my PB G4 so who knows what the deal is. I never really stopped to think about it.

I run Windows 2000 Advanced Server and never have had driver problems. I don't know what exotic or crap [Freecom Traveller USB & Firewire CDRW] hardware you've been trying to run but driver support in 2000 is top notch. Sure, when 2000 was right off the line, driver support wasn't immediately available. I guess similar to what OS X users first experiened with their printers and FireWire devices.

Some of these totally absurd posts and points are like p*nis envy and really annoy me. Why is everyone grabbing at straws to drive home the point that Macs are better than PCs?

[toast]

Why is everyone grabbing at straws to drive home the point that Macs are better than PCs?

I suppose this annoys me too. It annoys me because even PC users know Mac is better. Why repeat it all day ?

[ksv]

Originally posted by azosx


"I can't even get 4x stable under XP, so I figure 8x is half as likely to let me play NWN"

This was posted by CmdrTaco, not the anonymous reader, as a follow up to this quote attached to a post from earlier this month.

"I was gonna say something witty and insightful here, but I can't think of anything. At least I can't make a windows machine stable enough to run Neverwinter or my brain would be toast."

So some anti-MS idiot can't run NWN in Windows, thus Macs are better? CmdrTaco is the biggest MS basher on Slashdot. If what he says about Windows really gets you thinking, well, nevermind.

BTW, I've run NWN on my PC with 4x AGP with no problems. Could it be that this is just an isolated incident?

I can't play my Castaway DVD on my G4 Cube but it plays on my PC flawlessly. PCs must be better then according to your logic? It runs fine on my PB G4 so who knows what the deal is. I never really stopped to think about it.

I run Windows 2000 Advanced Server and never have had driver problems. I don't know what exotic or crap [Freecom Traveller USB & Firewire CDRW] hardware you've been trying to run but driver support in 2000 is top notch. Sure, when 2000 was right off the line, driver support wasn't immediately available. I guess similar to what OS X users first experiened with their printers and FireWire devices.

Some of these totally absurd posts and points are like p*nis envy and really annoy me. Why is everyone grabbing at straws to drive home the point that Macs are better than PCs?

We're here to discuss Mac related topics, have fun and help other users. If you're here to discuss which platform is best, go somewhere else.
If you think your PC is best, fine for me. You probably belong to an other user group with different requirements.
I never visit PC discussion boards to make heated discussions and hurt their community.

[marmotton]

Originally posted by azosx



I can't play my Castaway DVD on my G4 Cube but it plays on my PC flawlessly. PCs must be better then according to your logic? It runs fine on my PB G4 so who knows what the deal is. I never really stopped to think about it.

FYI: I have played a rented Castaway DVD on my G4 Cube without any problem. I remember watching the 2 CDs, with all the extras. I was running Mac OS 10. You may want to check your system and/or configuration.
Sorry I can't be any more help.

[azosx]

Originally posted by ksv


We're here to discuss Mac related topics, have fun and help other users. If you're here to discuss which platform is best, go somewhere else.
If you think your PC is best, fine for me. You probably belong to an other user group with different requirements.
I never visit PC discussion boards to make heated discussions and hurt their community.

How exactly is starting a thread on 8x AGP on a PC and how it will or will not run a Mac related topic? Give me a break. This whole thread was created to discredit PCs and to discuss which platform is best. I think you're telling the wrong user to go somewhere else if you have a problem with PC/Mac comparisons. Talk to fryke. Biased and blind. People like yourself humor me.