Macs with Intel inside?

[changomarcelo]

I've been reading about this in many sites: http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stor...876696,00.html.
What do you think? Is it possible?? Well, it is possible if they want to do it, but I think that Macs won't be the same with an Intel chip inside. But, worse of all.... Macs running Windows????? Are we crazy man?????

[mdnky]

Originally posted by changomarcelo
But, worse of all.... Macs running Windows????? Are we crazy man?????

First, it isn't going to happen. Second, if it did it doesn't mean they'll run windows because they use an Intel chip.

[AdmiralAK]

It aint gonna happen

[pezagent]

"Ain't gonna happen"

This is the typical ignorance of the Apple iDiot.

This is my opinion based on real world facts: Motorola sucks. The AIM aliance, responsible for delivering the G4 chip, is another one of those stupid blunders in Apple's history of blunders.

Porting Mac over to x86 is not a new idea. Spindler toyed with the idea for a long time, especially when Apple was looking for a new operating system. It couldn't be done, however, so the idea was trashed.

Now, since OSX is based on Unix, porting Darwin to x86 is easy as pie. Something Macintosh users may not be aware of yet (I was not aware until I became PC-savvy) is that the current G4 chip is holding back performance of Apple software. Hasn't anyone noticed that Apple isn't releasing any "Burn Intel Burn" commericals lately? This is becuase AMD and Intel have already broken the 2GHZ barrier. By the time Mac (L)Users get up to speed with the G5 (which probably won't be realeased any time soon unless Motorola can get it's act together). Another consideration is DDR ram, which is faster than SDRAM, and doesn't require the use of a Level 3 Cache, which also slows performance. Although DDR isn't a huge boost in performance speeds right now (an added 10% or so) it will evolve over time like everything else.

Another problem with the G4 chip and the AIM aliance--there's no direct competition and the market isn't that huge. AMD and Intel go head-to-head, so it's hard to get lost in hyperboyle--they just deliver results which equals faster chips to the end user. This was the main reason I decided to get off the Mac platform. As much as I can appreciate G4 technology, it's not making my computers any faster.

Apple (L)Users have to stop this technoloyalty--having an Intel or AMD chip in your case will be no different than having a G4 or G5 in your case. The only difference will be benefits to you, the user, as the costs of Apple products would decrease signifigantly.

I can only imagine that Apple is once again seriously considering this switch. It would be the only way Apple could go head to head with Microsoft. I think the only thing Apple would worry about is it's proprietary control--the truth about Apple right now is that they're NOT in direct competition with Windows. I know this may be hard to understand, but the Mac (L)User base is established. Apple needs only to try and keep new customers coming in (the Switch campaign) and provide "new toys" for it's already existing customer base. Going head-to-head with Microsoft will require a great deal of business-redesign, as Apple would be seen more for what it really is: A very slick case modification with a nice GUI.

[AdmiralAK]

YOu are the ignorant one.
The aint gonna happen comment is directed towards the fact that this has been discussed NOUMEROUS times, even before the public beta when this site was made 2 years ago. Most people are sick of hearing rumors when such a move aint gonna happen, at least anytime soon. So please stop yer ignorant personal attacks, and stop calling people idiots and loosers.

[xaqintosh]

the reason it aint gonna happen is that carbon apps (and a lot, if not _most_ os x apps are carbon) cannot be ported to intel, at least not easily, and emulation really isn't what we want. so rather than intel, Apple will probably switch from motorola to full-time IBM with their new desktop Power4 chip.

[fryke]

Believe me, the Carbon API _can_ be ported to the X86 platform. QuickTime itself contains - and this from Apple sources - a large part of the Macintosh Toolbox.

[xaqintosh]

in that case, what exactly *is* stopping us from moving to intel?