DVD?

[wildval]

Does Mac OS X have dvd movie capibility? I heard from my friend that it doesn't.

[Hobeaux]

The first release of Mac OS X (version 10.0) will not have DVD playback from within X itself. You can reboot into OS 9 and watch your DVDs there, however.

As a rule, Apple doesn't ship unfinished software and so opted to keep DVD playback out of the initial release of X. (from what I gather, anyway. Could be some other reason altogether.)

However, this does not mean that Apple won't release DVD support through a downloadable Software Update shortly thereafter.

[Mac Guru]

"Apparently, the reason for lack of DVD playback in OSX is directly related to the recent hacks such as DeCSS and qrpff (http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,42259,00.html).

Since DVD decryption is done in software now, if these new Linux-based hacks were combined with Apple's new CD-RW equipped machines... you can see why a brand new G4 with OSX would make pirates drool

Until the legal issues of DVD decryption (namely, these hacks) are sorted out, DVD playback on OSX will be a dangerous issue. Apple would basically be walking into the line of fire on that one."

Mac Guru

[VGZ]

There is an article on Macworld.com quoting Steve as saying that the DVD player and CD burning software should be out this spring within the next month or 2.

http://macworld.zdnet.com/2001/03/22/osx-brief1.html

DVD-playback and CD-burning capabilities are missing from the initial release. Jobs promised that those two features would be fixed sometime this spring and at the end of April, respectively.

So just wait ,

[Mac Guru]

Exactly... it's a darn 1.0 release not to mention a whole new OS. I pitty the fool that thinks a software company could come out with something brand new and somehow pack all the features into the initial release.

If that was possible at all then screw apple for not giving us all the features of OS 9 back in OS 7.5!

Mac Guru

[AdmiralAK]

IMHO this is MORONIC.
Big F'n deal that apple ships with CD-RWs. PCs have had DVD playback AND CD-RWs in the same box for a looong time now...sooo ??

Apple DVD player uses the built in video card to decode DVDs, there is no reason to bring in DeCSS et al. Further more that is a software DVD decoder already available for the mac, AND you dont even have to have DeCSS and qtrff (or whatever) to make copies of DVDs. DeCSS is there to play the DVD, NOT to copy it.

This is a moronic argument, and I dont think that apple left DVD playback off 1.0 for this reason.


Admiral

[vihung]

I am QUITE sure that it has nothing to do with Mac G4s shipping with DVD and CD-RW together

You can't copy a DVD onto a CD anyway - different capacity.

With DeCSS, you MIGHT be able to extract clips from the DVD and store those onto a CD - perhaps even convert the whole DVD into two or three VideoCDs ...

... but I am sure that is not the issue. You can do that anyway with a PC.

Besides, REAL pirates use a duplicator machine and copy the whole DVD bit by bit - track by track, sector by sector. Encryption and all


I am just speculating here, but my guess is that Apple was not quite able to get the DVD player working properly in all configurations, and opted to not include that in the first release.

There will be a update/patch/fix soon coming, and you will get it though the Software Update utility

[AdmiralAK]

DeCSS is to decode the video so that it can be played.
You CAN copy video from a DVD (or another MPEG2 source for that matter like a SVCD) and you can video edit it and make CDs of that video, like for example make VCDs of a DVD or make a SVCD from a regular VCD. I have done video editing and all this can be done without DeCSS.

THe video industry is just bitchin' (pardon my language) because with DeCSS if you buy a DVD from europe (region 2 encoding) you can play use DeCSS to play it anywhere. SO if *I* legitimatelly buy DVD from europe and want to see it if I dont have DeCSS (or a software DVD encoder w/o region recognition) OR a DVD player from region 2 my purchase was in vain. The motion picture indistry is ust looking for some more $$$ in its pockets.

I am with the notion that apple could not get it all done soon enough I am waiting for a DVD player though b4 I get OS X