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Old June 25th, 2003, 12:23 AM
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whats the deal with this? [G5 bashing from slashdot]

http://www.haxial.com/spls-soapbox/apple-powermac-G5/


I don't have time to actually run all of these test on my own thats for sure...
I guess I won't be able to make my own opinion until I actually have a G5 sitting on my desk.
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Old June 25th, 2003, 12:35 AM
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Slashdot being slashdot. If they're trolling, it must mean that the G5 is quality work.
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Notice the other thread on this:

Powermac G5 SPEC numbers cooked?

Slashdot did NOT write this story, don't blame this on them. Also note that Slashdot obtained and posted Apple's response to the story earlier today...

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i wasnt blaming slashdot, i was just saying that i saw the story posted there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah.

Look, there is no really decent way to run benchmarks against different processors. The SPEC benchmark tests use a compliler that is specifically designed to run on Intel processors. That way Intel scores higher than AMD. Accusing Apple of doing the same thing that Intel already does is a bit silly.

A better test is one that I will run everyday and that is real world applications. How fast will it render a complex Photoshop file? How fast will it render a Final Cut Pro movie or in the interest of cross-platform challenges, how fast will it render a two hour video clip in Premiere?

I care about processor intensive tasks like rendering a video file. I don't care which one opens up Word faster. Word will be open in a few seconds. Knock 90 minutes off a two hour rendering job and you have my attention.
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Respectively, that article makes a lot of good points and shouldn't just be scoffed at. The G5 is not so much faster than anything else that it can safely be labled "The World's Fastest PC." The truth is, it's very hard to tell and apple is misleading people by stressing that it is indeed the world's fastest pc. I definately think it would be a good idea for Apple to reconsider their slogan.
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He's done his own research and come up with his own conclusion, which is more than I can say for any of those flamers he's posted below the article. Those people get too worked up about nothing when in fact it's wise to remember that a computer is a tool. It has a purpose and those purposes are different between Windows, Linux and Macintosh. Half the people posting probably never even use gcc, so the tests are irrelevant anyway. Plus, what does it matter if the writer of this article thinks Apple is lying, I'll still use my iMac over a dual xeon any day.

but while I'm on the subject of comparing computers to tools, I'd like to point out that Windows can be compared to a drill without any drill bit or a lazy susan. We're all a little biased sometimes
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I partially agree with the author of that article; I don't think that Apple is deliberately trying to mislead their non-technically literate users into thinking that the G5 is something much greater than it really is, however I do think that they're throwing around phrases like "The World's Fastest PC" and "Faster than Intel" way too much and by doing so is putting their credibility for these claims in jeopardy. They should wait until they have Dual 3GHz G5s out the door before making these claims.... but who knows what Intel and AMD will have by then.
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