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Old August 14th, 2004, 12:53 PM
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iPod and Gapless Playback -- Sign the Petition!

I created a petition to show Apple how many users want gapless playback on their iPod

http://www.petitiononline.com/13421509/petition.html

maybe Apple just didn't realize how important it is to us DAP owners, but all i'm hoping for in this petition is for them to realize that it is pretty important.

Please sign it if you would like to have gapless playback on the iPod.

thanks guys

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Old August 14th, 2004, 01:43 PM
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Just go into iTunes' preferences and set the playback gap to 0.
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Troll bait: Anyone seen the new G5 petition?
iPod Update Petition

Just a couple of links to express my distaste for petitions. Petitioning for a refund on your OS because the company promised it would work on your computer, then turns around and ships the OS with obviously crippled code so that your machine runs the OS but at a severely crippled rate is one thing. Petitioning for a feature on a piece of hardware is another thing. There's nothing wrong with the iPod. There's no reason to have a petition to back it up, since it didn't do anything wrong and you weren't promised any features that are being held back. I believe petitions like this take credibility away from what I consider to be meaningful petitions.

A much more tactile and worthwhile effort would be, instead, to contact all those people who you would like to sign your petition and get them to send similar feedback to Apple (http://www.apple.com/feedback/) if they feel the same as you. I think you'd have much better chances of having that feature implemented that way rather than starting a petition that Apple will probably never see about something that a petition is just overkill for. It's like holding a formal meeting to decide who exactly the penny on the floor in the bathroom belongs to.
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Just go into iTunes' preferences and set the playback gap to 0.
That isn't gapless, and furthermore, there is no cross fader in iPod

Read carefully, the petition is for iPod, not iTunes, John Doe
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Old August 14th, 2004, 02:57 PM
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That isn't gapless, and furthermore, there is no cross fader in iPod

Read carefully, the petition is for iPod, not iTunes, John Doe
If you rip an album with that setting, it'll keep when you copy over to iPod.

And ElDiablo is correct, one of those petitions is silly and a waste of time.
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Setting the crossfader to 0 seconds is not the same as gapless playback.

I have a lot of live albums, which i have ripped with the crossfader at 0, since it's as good as iTunes will get for now, and it isn't as good as the gapless original CD.

Also, the settings for the crossfader do not cross over to the iPod, since it isn't part of the file, it's iTunes doing the cross fading, whereas iPod cannot do the crossfading itself.

While it may sound acceptable for .aiff and .wav files, in .mp3 format, it will not work. In .mp3 format, a trailing silence is added to the file, and to be truly gapless in .mp3 format the software needs to be able to recognize this silence and then filter it out before the next cached song begins playing.

Not to be condescending, but it does sound like you are unfamiliar with all of this. Read up on how the Rio Karma achieves this, and you will have a better understanding of gapless playback in various formats.

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You will have much better luck going to http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/ and requesting this feature - a petition demanding something
like this is laughable at most and will not get results.
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My MP3 files that I create from my AIFF and WAV files are identical in length, meaning that there is absolutely no "trailing" anything added to my MP3 files. They are a perfect, lossy copy of the original file, with nothing added in the beginning, middle or end.
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