Mac Freezing with New Hard Drive, New Install

[shanis42]

I just formatted and reinstalled my entire operating system.

I did this because my system was freezing at random intervals, and disk utilities was telling me I had bad sectors. I replaced the drive and all was working well. That was yesterday. Today, the computer started freezing again.

Early this morning I had put the old hard drive back in as additional storage. I am not running anything off of the old drive, but it still froze. I am thinking I am dealing with one of two things.

1. Searchlight is indexing the old drive, reaching the bad sector and freezing. I don't even know if that is possible. I added the drive to the privacy section in the searchlight options, no freezing yet. I say yet, because something tells me it will.

2. I may be dealing with some other hardware problem, my memory has been tested and passed all of the Tech Tools testing. Has anyone using OSX10.4 on a G4 (Mirrored Doors) had any unusual freezing problems that I can test for on my machine?

[DeltaMac]

If your system was working fine with a new hard drive, then you added your old drive (which was causing your system to freeze, apparently), and your system is now freezing again - maybe you need to find a nice dumpster to drop that hard drive into. You may not be booted to that old hard drive, but the system needs to successfully mount it, and keep it mounted. The old drive must not be working that well any more - time to say good-bye.

[shanis42]

I kinda suspected that, I had to connect the hard drive to get some images off of it.

I took the drive out yesterday afternoon. This morning (right on schedule) it froze. I get into work every morning at around 7:45 and start up my Mac. Around 7:55 like clockwork it freezes.

The morning after the brand new install, I was using Firefox and had a complete system freeze. I found info online about a Firefox 2 freezing issue with 10.4. So I started using Safari. This morning Safari froze up my system.

It is without exception in the morning. Almost always around 7:55. I know there is nothing scheduled, because it is a clean install (unless there is default scheduling). After the crash I restart and it works fine for the rest of the day (no crashing/freezing).

[DeltaMac]

Are you connected to an office network that may have other systems booting up before 7:55 AM ?

Does your Mac completely freeze up, forcing you to shut it off? Or can you wait a few minutes and your Mac recovers on its own?

As an experiment - wait until 8 AM to start your Mac.

[Satcomer]

You seem to be having HARDWARE issues. What does the logs tell you (/YourHardDrive/Applications/Utilies/Console)?

[shanis42]

If I remember when I get into work in the morning I will post the contents of my console.

I was under the impression that if it were a hardware issue I would experience the difficulty after every startup. I only am having freezes in the morning after the first startup of the day. It will freeze, I manually restart then it runs like a champ for the rest of the day.

Tomorrow morning I am going to put off starting it up until 8:05am, as DeltaMac suggested, I think it will make a good test. My daily crash seems to be around 7:55am almost everyday. That could just be that people follow patterns. I come in at almost the same time everyday, start up after walking through the door. Then X minutes pass and then system freeze. Tomorrow should let me know.

Till then...

[shanis42]

Well, I delayed startup until 8:05 and just let the computer sit there. It froze.

This tells me that a certain number of minutes pass by and then a freeze. What has me stumped is the fact that it only happens on the first startup of the work day. After the first freeze, no problems.

Here is the system log: I started up today at around 8:01. The crash was around 8:15. My restart was at 8:18.




Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 10000 us
Jun 14 08:01:35 localhost memberd[41]: memberd starting up
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: vm_page_bootstrap: 254366 free pages
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost lookupd[45]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Thu Jun 14 08:01:36 2007
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: mig_table_max_displ = 70
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: 85 prelinked modules
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: using 2621 buffer headers and 2621 cluster IO buffer headers
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 31 built-in now active, GUID 000a95ff fecf6132; max speed s400.
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Security auditing service present
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: BSM auditing present
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: disabled
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: rooting via boot-uuid from /chosen: 7D9E1B84-2384-3D55-98A8-6A0C542636DE
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOProviderClass</key><string ID="1">IOResources</string><key>IOResourceMatch</key><string ID="2">boot-uuid-media</string></dict>
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Got boot device = IOService:/MacRISC2PE/pci@f4000000/AppleMacRiscPCI/ata-6@D/AppleKauaiATA/ATADeviceNub@0/IOATABlockStorageDriver/IOATABlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStorageDriver/ST3320620A Media/IOApplePartitionScheme/Apple_HFS_Untitled_1@10
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: BSD root: disk0s10, major 14, minor 10
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Jettisoning kernel linker.
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Resetting IOCatalogue.
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 0
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: rtclock timebase_callback: late old 1000000000 / 41656790 new 1000000000 / 41656700
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost kernel[0]: IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging disabled
Jun 14 08:01:36 localhost DirectoryService[53]: Launched version 2.1 (v353.6)
Jun 14 08:01:37 localhost mDNSResponder-108.5 (May 9 2007 15: 08:01)[34]: starting
Jun 14 08:01:38 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:0a:95:cf:61:32
Jun 14 08:01:38 localhost launchd: Server 3327 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[45]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Jun 14 08:01:38 localhost lookupd[58]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Thu Jun 14 08:01:38 2007
Jun 14 08:01:38 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk0s10 hfs 7D9E1B84-2384-3D55-98A8-6A0C542636DE Rocky /
Jun 14 08:01:38 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk2s6 hfs 341E09ED-2B6A-3BD5-8676-3C42EFB9DFF1 LaCie External [not mounted]
Jun 14 08:01:38 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk1s9 hfs 3C484206-FE71-37D0-ABA9-178FC42EDF13 Rocky_Backup /Volumes/Rocky_Backup
Jun 14 08:01:38 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk1s10 hfs E2927040-6068-32DD-AF3E-6E06829E5DBE Adrian /Volumes/Adrian
Jun 14 08:01:40 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet::monitorLinkStatus - Link is up at 100 Mbps - Full Duplex
Jun 14 08:01:40 localhost configd[38]: AppleTalk startup
Jun 14 08:01:40 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: setting hostname to "Susan-Lacey.local"
Jun 14 08:01:42 Susan-Lacey kernel[0]: ATY,Pheonix_A: vram [9c000000:04000000]
Jun 14 08:01:42 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: executing /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/Kicker.bundle/Contents/Resources/enable-network
Jun 14 08:01:42 Susan-Lacey kernel[0]: ATY,Pheonix_B: vram [98000000:04000000]
Jun 14 08:01:42 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
Jun 14 08:01:42 Susan-Lacey lookupd[79]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Thu Jun 14 08:01:42 2007
Jun 14 08:01:43 Susan-Lacey /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started
Jun 14 08:01:43 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: target=enable-network: disabled
Jun 14 08:01:44 Susan-Lacey mDNSResponder: Adding browse domain local.
Jun 14 08:01:45 Susan-Lacey loginwindow[124]: Login Window Started Security Agent
Jun 14 08:01:46 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: AppleTalk startup complete
Jun 14 08:01:55 Susan-Lacey diskarbitrationd[40]: disk2s6 hfs 341E09ED-2B6A-3BD5-8676-3C42EFB9DFF1 LaCie External /Volumes/LaCie External
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 10000 us
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost memberd[41]: memberd starting up
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: vm_page_bootstrap: 254366 free pages
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost mDNSResponder-108.5 (May 9 2007 15: 08:01)[34]: starting
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: mig_table_max_displ = 70
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost lookupd[43]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Thu Jun 14 08:10:36 2007
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: 85 prelinked modules
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost DirectoryService[46]: Launched version 2.1 (v353.6)
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: using 2621 buffer headers and 2621 cluster IO buffer headers
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 31 built-in now active, GUID 000a95ff fecf6132; max speed s400.
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Security auditing service present
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: BSM auditing present
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: disabled
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: rooting via boot-uuid from /chosen: 7D9E1B84-2384-3D55-98A8-6A0C542636DE
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOProviderClass</key><string ID="1">IOResources</string><key>IOResourceMatch</key><string ID="2">boot-uuid-media</string></dict>
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Got boot device = IOService:/MacRISC2PE/pci@f4000000/AppleMacRiscPCI/ata-6@D/AppleKauaiATA/ATADeviceNub@0/IOATABlockStorageDriver/IOATABlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStorageDriver/ST3320620A Media/IOApplePartitionScheme/Apple_HFS_Untitled_1@10
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: BSD root: disk0s10, major 14, minor 10
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: jnl: replay_journal: from: 20508160 to: 9080832 (joffset 0x952000)
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: in6_ifattach_linklocal: failed to configure a link-local address on lo0 (errno=55)
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: in6_ifattach: lo0 failed to attach a linklocal address.
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: HFS: Removed 2 orphaned unlinked files
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Jettisoning kernel linker.
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Resetting IOCatalogue.
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 0
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:10:36 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:10:37 localhost kernel[0]: rtclock timebase_callback: late old 1000000000 / 41656790 new 1000000000 / 41656700
Jun 14 08:10:37 localhost kernel[0]: IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging disabled
Jun 14 08:10:38 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:0a:95:cf:61:32
Jun 14 08:10:38 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk2s6 hfs 341E09ED-2B6A-3BD5-8676-3C42EFB9DFF1 LaCie External [not mounted]
Jun 14 08:10:38 localhost launchd: Server 3b0b in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[43]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Jun 14 08:10:38 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk0s10 hfs 7D9E1B84-2384-3D55-98A8-6A0C542636DE Rocky /
Jun 14 08:10:38 localhost lookupd[72]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Thu Jun 14 08:10:38 2007
Jun 14 08:10:39 localhost kernel[0]: jnl: replay_journal: from: 3070976 to: 3182080 (joffset 0x2bcbba000)
Jun 14 08:10:39 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk1s9 hfs 3C484206-FE71-37D0-ABA9-178FC42EDF13 Rocky_Backup /Volumes/Rocky_Backup
Jun 14 08:10:39 localhost kernel[0]: jnl: replay_journal: from: 5905920 to: 6083584 (joffset 0x27943000)
Jun 14 08:10:39 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk1s10 hfs E2927040-6068-32DD-AF3E-6E06829E5DBE Adrian /Volumes/Adrian
Jun 14 08:10:40 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet::monitorLinkStatus - Link is up at 100 Mbps - Full Duplex
Jun 14 08:10:40 localhost configd[38]: AppleTalk startup
Jun 14 08:10:40 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: setting hostname to "Susan-Lacey.local"
Jun 14 08:10:43 Susan-Lacey kernel[0]: ATY,Pheonix_A: vram [9c000000:04000000]
Jun 14 08:10:43 Susan-Lacey launchd: Server 3b4f in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[72]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Jun 14 08:10:43 Susan-Lacey kernel[0]: ATY,Pheonix_B: vram [98000000:04000000]
Jun 14 08:10:43 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: executing /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/Kicker.bundle/Contents/Resources/enable-network
Jun 14 08:10:43 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
Jun 14 08:10:43 Susan-Lacey lookupd[77]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Thu Jun 14 08:10:43 2007
Jun 14 08:10:44 Susan-Lacey /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started
Jun 14 08:10:45 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: target=enable-network: disabled
Jun 14 08:10:45 Susan-Lacey mDNSResponder: Adding browse domain local.
Jun 14 08:10:46 Susan-Lacey loginwindow[140]: Login Window Started Security Agent
Jun 14 08:10:46 Susan-Lacey configd[38]: AppleTalk startup complete
Jun 14 08:10:56 Susan-Lacey kernel[0]: jnl: replay_journal: from: 9721344 to: 10386432 (joffset 0x52a6f6000)
Jun 14 08:10:56 Susan-Lacey diskarbitrationd[40]: disk2s6 hfs 341E09ED-2B6A-3BD5-8676-3C42EFB9DFF1 LaCie External /Volumes/LaCie External
Jun 14 08:15:39 Susan-Lacey loginwindow[140]: sendQuitEventToApp (iTunes Helper): AESendMessage returned error -609
Jun 14 08:15:39 Susan-Lacey shutdown: halt by susanlacey:
Jun 14 08:15:39 Susan-Lacey SystemStarter[217]: authentication service (233) did not complete successfully
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 10000 us
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost mDNSResponder-108.5 (May 9 2007 15: 08:01)[34]: starting
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: vm_page_bootstrap: 254366 free pages
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost memberd[41]: memberd starting up
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: mig_table_max_displ = 70
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost lookupd[43]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Thu Jun 14 08:18:24 2007
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: 85 prelinked modules
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost DirectoryService[46]: Launched version 2.1 (v353.6)
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: using 2621 buffer headers and 2621 cluster IO buffer headers
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 31 built-in now active, GUID 000a95ff fecf6132; max speed s400.
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Security auditing service present
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: BSM auditing present
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: disabled
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: rooting via boot-uuid from /chosen: 7D9E1B84-2384-3D55-98A8-6A0C542636DE
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOProviderClass</key><string ID="1">IOResources</string><key>IOResourceMatch</key><string ID="2">boot-uuid-media</string></dict>
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Got boot device = IOService:/MacRISC2PE/pci@f4000000/AppleMacRiscPCI/ata-6@D/AppleKauaiATA/ATADeviceNub@0/IOATABlockStorageDriver/IOATABlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStorageDriver/ST3320620A Media/IOApplePartitionScheme/Apple_HFS_Untitled_1@10
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: BSD root: disk0s10, major 14, minor 9
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Jettisoning kernel linker.
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Resetting IOCatalogue.
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 0
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 2
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: rtclock timebase_callback: late old 1000000000 / 41656790 new 1000000000 / 41656700
Jun 14 08:18:24 localhost kernel[0]: IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging disabled
Jun 14 08:18:25 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:0a:95:cf:61:32
Jun 14 08:18:25 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk0s10 hfs 7D9E1B84-2384-3D55-98A8-6A0C542636DE Rocky /
Jun 14 08:18:26 localhost diskarbitrationd[40]: disk1s6 hfs 341E09ED-2B6A-3BD5-8676-3C42EFB9DFF1 LaCie External [not mounted]
Jun 14 08:18:26 localhost launchd: Server 3b0b in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[43]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Jun 14 08:18:26 localhost lookupd[64]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Thu Jun 14 08:18:26 2007
Jun 14 08:18:28 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet::monitorLinkStatus - Link is up at 100 Mbps - Full Duplex
Jun 14 08:18:28 localhost configd[38]: AppleTalk startup

[bobw]

Try disconnecting anything connected to the machine, including the network, (Ethernet) except for keyboard, mouse and monitor after you shut down. In the morning see if the same thing happens.