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February 26th, 2005, 04:45 AM
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| Wine?  |
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February 26th, 2005, 05:13 AM
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| Wine isn't an emulator. It's a compatibility layer that translates Win32 API function calls (used by Windows applications) into the corresponding *nix function calls. Thats why the apps run at native speeds since the overhead of translating the calls is cheap as it's usually a one-to-one mapping. Since it isn't emulation and since Windows apps are written for the PC and thus require underlying PC hardware to work, Wine isn't going to work on any machine that isn't x86 based, like Macs. There is a project to try and port wine to PPC Darwin, but that's still in very early alpha stage. |
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February 26th, 2005, 11:54 AM
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| Yeah, until they get Wine compatible with OS X, may I suggest "Beer?" 
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February 26th, 2005, 12:36 PM
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| Yes, there is some limited support: http://darwine.opendarwin.org/ IIRC they use Qemu to emulate the x86 processor.
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#5
February 26th, 2005, 02:30 PM
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| I personally see no viable reason for Wine or Wine-like functionality on the Mac. Remember, it's a thunking layer, not a platform emulator. If you're looking for a Windows environment on your Mac, use Virtual PC or Qemu and build a properly emulated virtual machine. If you're looking for cross-platform coding solutions, look at Java, Python+TCL, Mono, etc. $.02
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February 26th, 2005, 08:41 PM
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| Well, once darwine reaches a good stage of completeness, I'll likely try it out. Not that there are any Windows apps I actually want to run, I'm just curious...
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February 26th, 2005, 10:40 PM
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| anything opensource has GOT to be faster than VPC.
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February 27th, 2005, 02:41 PM
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| Windows on a Mac Virtual PC? Yes because Macs can do it. But no because its a MicroSoft OS and like draggin Joe Foreman around by your underwear . . . . . its a little on the slow side and very irritating. By a 2nd hand PC, bung MS on it and plug it into your network . . . . for whatever reason. Can't see a need for it? What is the robbing of a bank compared to the founding of a bank? -- Bertold Brecht Answer: Ask Robin Banks -- Robin Banks Last edited by thewelshman; February 27th, 2005 at 02:50 PM. |
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