Journaling??

[Meltdowns6]

Hi,

Is it me or has apple changed something in Tiger?
I used to be able to switch-off journalling of the boot partition in diskutility.
Now in Tiger i can't do it anymore. The option is greyed out for the boot partition only. Onyx doesn't work in tiger yet as does Cocktail so that's not an option yet.
This drives me nuts because sometimes my cpu is maxing out due to an active process called "update" which hugs my cpu for 85% for hours on end.
I believe "update" is journaling related.
Anyone know a solution?

[cybergoober]

Cocktail has been updated...

[MrNivit1]

update may be spotlight related... (i.e. creating a database from which to search later from).

[Pengu]

um. that shouldn't happen. try fixing permissions, and re-install. then one-by-one reinstall whatever background apps/menu items/docklings you run and see what is causing it. I don't beleive that journalling is going to cause your issue. i have it turned on on my G4 (see below) and it is fine.

[Ripcord]

Journalling should DEFINITELY be extremely low-usage, and there's no seperate process for it. Instead, as mentioned, the processes mentioned are probably spotlight-related.

Note that spotlight updates occur with when moving around data in a way that affects any spotlight-aware program. Copying files is obvious, but moving a large number of messages from one folder to another in mail kicks off a spotlight update that can be pretty CPU-intensive and last for a while, even on a dual-G5.

[fryke]

It sounds to me as if the user wanted to preemptively deactivate journaling, not like it's in Tiger that this update process thing is happening specifically... Either way: Journaling should have _no_ such effect, so I'd leave it on, anyway. Better for the harddrive. Or rather: Your data.

[Krevinek]

Yes, journalling, even on my Pismo 500 is not a big enough hit to disrupt much of anything. 'update' is related to spotlight, and the first couple of days you have the system under Tiger it eats up CPU like mad. Myself and others have brought this up in previous threads.

[Meltdowns6]

Thanks all for the replies.

Makes sense that spotlight is responsible. I used to disable sherlock in Os9 for exactly the same reason (indexing)
I hope this goes away quickly or can be disabled (like Sherlock) in a future update because i have to use my laptop in realtime.
I'm a pro musician who uses it to generate guitar sound on stage live.
With Tiger this will be totally impossible as it stands now.
Fortunately i have a backup system with 10.3.8 which i now use.
Let's hope this won't be a standard returning "feature" in Tiger because i and many others will be in Panther like forever.

Krevinek
Could you post a link to one of those threads?

Ps
With certain audio apps disabling journaling does make quite a difference.
Is anyone able to disable it on the boot partition in Tiger like you could in Jaguar and Panther with diskutility?