what isn't great on X ... why Apple is wrong.

[maccatalan]

Hello.

First I would like you to know I like a lot OS X. It's a very great system and the most great is GNU Darwin, I think. That's all wonderful, but ...

But when you set the view of a window to list with sorting value to file name, then, if you change the name of a file then the list isn't resort (ex. : {Apple, Applications, Games}, you do Apple -> zApple, and you see (until you open again the window) : {zApple, Applications, Games} ).

When you select a file in a window and another in elsewhere (in some other window), the both are selected. Fortunately, Apple's Finder only considers the last selected one.

The speed is not shown on a PPP connection with "Internet Connect.app". There is no way (in "System Preferences.app") to use a Connection Script (very usefull when you use a terminal connection).

There's no more folder exploration by "1/2 click". I mean : when you drag a file on a folder it was opened using OS 9. This was very (but very very) useful.

(...)


Thank you Apple for including in OS X 10.1 all those brilliant ideas you got in the past. Thank you also to have made OS X, it's the best idea you got (thank you NeXT).

Pierre.

PS (-----> to Apple):

what about a Mac OS X for Intel ?

I use a Mac since I'm 3 (I began with an Apple ][e), but I've to recognize you're so crazy : how can you think dealers to sell your products when on an iMac they win only $15 (my father was AppleCenter in south of France).
Do you think a business, a familly can live with this few ?

What do you think of your after-sales policy ? When a customer comes to see us with an iMac we say : "We are sorry, but you will have to wait a lot. Or you buy an Apple Care service and some Apple's expert of Toulouse will come to see you, or you give us your Mac and we send it to Holland (to Apple). You wait in every case.
Bhe most often we are able to repair it. So why don't you allow us to fix the problem, why do you force this future ex-Mac lover the customer is to wait ??

Apple kills Apple, as the Human kills Humanity.

Yesterday a mother went to see me. She had a problem with her Mac. I fixed it, two hours later her child was using Adibou on. What would have happend if I didn't fixed it ? She would have waited, ok, but fo her child is the summer holidays. She want's her Adibou.

My friends always argue to convince me of the superiority of PC on Mac. I do as if I didn't agree. But even if I know Mac software (OS X first) to be better than Windows, I can't be without thinking about Linux. Even if I know Mac to be cheaper now than some years ago, I can't be without dreaming about a perfect Mac : just a motherboard (why not from Apple) but with the video card I want (a little one), with the number of processors I want, with the number of disks I want and with the PCI cards I want (no firewire, no sound, ...). This is the Mac I want. Do you remember Gassé : "Open Mac" ?
When my father looks for a network installation for a company who needs one I say : why don't you put some Mac Server with MacOS X as Firewall, why don't you put some Mac as ... He laughs. He uses every day a Mac but it does now many years he forgot to believe in Apple. He no longer is a dreamer. He is realist, now. He was one of the first (before Apple France creation) to sell Mac in France. He was enthusiast at the idea of changing the face of the society by a new computer system. He made a lot for the Macintosh. Today he is sad. He hates Apple, Apple strangles him, day after day : the margins melt as snow on sun.
Today for a non graphical but professional solution (as networking, office, ...) a PC is better than a Mac : try to sell 50 or 150 iMacs to a firm with MS Office when they can have cheaper 100 or 200 PC with MS Office & Windows, or cheaper : 100 or 200 PC with GNU/Linux with StarOffice. That's no realist. Do they need Firewire, do they need Sound, ... ? No they just need a mouse, a keyboard, a screen, a CD-Rom driver (or burner), a floppy disk (sorry), a Zip maybe, and a hard disk.
Others just need the same but with ability to put more than one CD-RW driver, more than one HD, more than one Zip, ... Today, there's no Mac which permits this. The G4 is a closed machine. Fortunately you can put more than one HD, but what about a RACQ ? Do you know how to put one on a Mac ?


Try to think about all of that, and I forgot a lot more, but this is a good start I think.

In spite of all, I will continue to defend Mac and Apple, and I will continue to hope for a better world : "Le monde Apple" (as one of my shirts says).

Viva Apple! Viva Macintosh ! See you every body,
Pierre.

[tismey]

Pierre, if you insist on posting a massive post like this, do you mind only doing it once? I see little point starting 2 threads (which will mean that the people discussing them will be split in half, so the discussion will be half as interesting).

Yes, yes, we all know that OSX isn't perfect, but the things you mention are tiny niggles when you consider that they've just reconstructed the Mac OS from the ground up. And your point about having OSX on Intel just doesn't make any sense, I'm afraid - there are plenty of threads discussing that here, saying pretty much the same thing - if it runs on cheaper hardware, then Apple won't sell any computers, and so they'll lose money and die.

[maccatalan]

You wrote "Apple won't sell any computers, and so they'll lose money and die". Ok. They do very good hardware but remember Motorola, PowerComputing, etc. clones. It worked.
My idea is to make Apple to do that they do the best : software. But you're right : why not still doing some hardware (but cheaper with larger margins for dealers).

In fact I just wanted to notice this little forgots or bugs of Mac OS X and I totally agree with you when you say : "we all know that OSX isn't perfect, but the things you mention are tiny niggles when you consider that they've just reconstructed the Mac OS from the ground up".
I program a little so I think I'm able to imagine all the work it represents (actually I can't it's too much important).

It was at the beggining just two words about OS X but finally I was writting all my displeasure about Apple. I'm sorry if I'm borring but you know, after that you feel so light and free (just like after a reconciliation after a quarrel in love :-)

The fact is that I love Apple.
Pierre.

PS: about the 2 posts : I began posting at one thinking I was in another, when I noticed it I tried to rectify. Sorry, you're right again.

[AdmiralAK]

Software is nothing without hardware.
OS X is good only because it lays on top of grood hardware, and great hardware integration.

If OS X were on a PC platform, then the problem that exists with windows and all other PC OSes will hit apple too. TO many devices to support, not enough time to make drivers (good ones) for all of them, and apple becomes mediocre thus dies.


Admiral

[jove]

Hello,

Just a couple notes.

I have owned a Power Computing machine. They did not rock. They continually sacrificed quality of parts. They pushed where they could afford to.

The clones of PCs or even the Macs do/did not have anywhere the cost of manufacturing and R%D as Apple. Mac clones did not increase market share. They saw an existing market they could bleed.

Apple does need competition. But not with their existing customers! I believe your Dell, Gateway and etc is plenty of competition.

Macintoshes will ALWAYS cost more money. Apple does the R&D for hardware, software, and the integration. People buy Apple's just as people will spend a little extra and get a VW Jetta. You are paying for style and engineering.

Apple is not just a software company nor just a hardware company. They sell the whole widget, the integration.

To achieve the renowned integration Apple has had tight control of the testing matrix (possible configurations of HW and SW). Introducing Intel machines, even tightly controlled ones, will dramatically increase the matrix, cost of development, and then cost of their products.

The death bells are no longer ringing. Apple is making top selling machines. Profits are being made in a slumping economy. M$ NEEDS Apple just as Apple NEEDS M$. The "unix" of X is giving Apple inroads into Markets they never had a chance before! Just this week the young programmers on my team have bought Macs - despite my dorky evangelism. They couldn't stand MS quality, wanted a superior unix box with decent hardware integration, and Apple has priced computers in their range.

Apple is doing fine. X.1 will rock.

[ulrik]

Mhz. Mhz. Give me more Mhz. MORE MORE MORE! Why does everybody want to cross the GHz barrier? The Macs are FAST! Read my thread "How?". Use Photoshop! Use Final Cut! Take a look at Maya beta! These things are FAST! FASTER than on the PC. We all know that the "Megahertz Myth" was just an excuse to tell people why Apple doesn't need to have high Mhz counts...it's not that easy, I admit that, but I can't understand this race for Mhz.
Fellow Mac users. We have an Altivec Engine. This thing ROCKS when it is supported (read Photoshop, Final Cut etc). We have a freaking large cache (read expensive PC server processors). We have an incredible system performance under 9.x and soon under 10.1. We are looking forward to having maybe one of the best, state-of-the-art operating systems once all peripherals and stuff is supported like we know and like it from Macs. We have computers which also look beautiful. We have high quality CHEAP flatpanels (Cinema display! compare prices!). We are the first to have DVD-R drives in consumer workstations. We have one of the best bus systems (firewire) which is now coming to the PC because Microsoft realized that it is better than USB 2 (XP will have no USB 2 but Firewire support). We have the biggest companies develop stuff FIRST for the Mac (nVidia with the GeForce 3, Adobe, Macromedia, Alias-Wavefront, Microsoft)...what do you want? Some more Megahertz? If the Macs would be slow, I could understand it, but our systems are some of the fastest machines on the market. No, I don't need some Megahertz more. I like the way Apple works at the moment. Call me a fanboy, flame me for it if you need it, but that's my opinion. I can't stand those PC geeks sounding off with their millions dozens hundreds of Megahertz......

Amen!

[maccatalan]

but you've to recognize that the actual version of MacOS X is so slow at launching application and running Finder ...
Personally I regret the past, when Finder was including search function into itself (not like now with Sherlock). But at the same I'm admirative (is this english??) at Apple, just see their new OS.

Ok, you're right about the GHz, you're right about our powerful machines, but just look at Windows (arg!! sorry, a bad word) : you click, the application is launched at once. Don't need to wait, it's all fast. (of course, when it crashes you wait all the time to repair you didn't wait at application starting up).

We all now we love Apple. We are all like a lover who tries to find the "bad thing" of the loved body, but we can't : we love Apple, that is all.

So have fun, may the mac be always our secret lover,
Pierre.

[AdmiralAK]

LOL let me bring you some holly water to wash your mouth after saying the W word my son hehehehe