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#1
September 18th, 2004, 06:28 AM
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| Dear Apple, please unify interfaces I compare iTunes (best interface) Safari (ok, but I miss a good bookmark browser, that could be on side of the page, like the folders in Thunderbird) Mail (nice Aqua, but really too old now, needs to be updated to brushed metal) Finder (I just miss the hierarchical thread, like in Path Finder)
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#2
September 18th, 2004, 08:24 AM
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| I agree. I've been saying this since I started using OSX... course it was the other way around (get rid of the brushed metal and go with aqua), but the brushed metal apps are growing on me. It would be nice if Apple had one interface design and allowed for easy skinning (maybe not actually releasing a skinning application, but at least releasing a "Do it yourself" guide or SDK)
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#3
September 18th, 2004, 09:06 AM
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| I like brushed metal now more than Aqua. The apps I use daily like Safari, iTunes and iChat are all brushed metal and I like them! I wish Apple would just standardize on one look and make all apps brushed metal (or at least have the option of configuring them). |
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#4
September 18th, 2004, 09:26 AM
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| The other point is that I paid to have a 17" display. I don't want all the real estate being wasted by funny but useless white area. I prefer the more dense brushed metal look.
__________________ My current machine is an iMac Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz 24" with MacOS X 10.5.1. My Apples are here. My oldest Apple was born in 1977. Surf my .mac web site. GS/P/>SS d-(++) s+: a+ C+(C) U* P L+ E--- W++ N- o+ K? w O-- M++ V PS+ PE+ Y- PGP t+ 5 X+ R tv-- b+++ DI++ D+ G e+++ h---- r+++ y? Time is not changing, I'm just traveling through time. |
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#5
September 19th, 2004, 01:09 AM
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| Whitespace is necessary for ease of use, and comfortable reading. The Aqua interface is very good at blending into the background, for heavily content-based programs (like Mail, TextEdit). The Brushed Metal textured interface is purposefully distracting. No element is given precedence over others - data, interface widgets, titles - all arranged amid the interface. Safari is an exception, because, unless (like me) you have the Status Bar enabled (off by default), the only brushed metal is concentrated at the top, where the sheer number of elements demands something less spaced out and separated than the Aqua toolbars (see Jaguar Finder). I love how the OS X interfaces are sorted out. There's a nice balance of white and grey, both of which go brilliantly with the blue widgets (like the scrollbars), and in the end, the whole interface fits together very nicely. Compared to how Windows gives their developers more control over the way their windows look (easily), Apple's Interface Builder allows developers to, intuitively, develop windows that follow Apple's Human Interface Guidelines. I can't complain at ALL with the way Apple produces its products, although I would like Mail to be updated a little bit, functionality-wise, I don't feel it needs ANY modification interface-wise (short of the Dock-context menu, which is woefully understocked). If people don't like Aqua applications, I'm sure there's a program which does the opposite of DeMetalifizer.
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#6
September 19th, 2004, 04:05 AM
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| Hi TexanPingu, I like your answer very much because you differentiate two things: white vs metal and small vs large interface. And indeed, I have nothing against the white itself. But I have something about the interface being bigger that the content. The status bar is Safari as an example should be smart like the dock and appear only when I howe over the bottom of the window. Mail interface could remain white, but icons should be more compact (like Safari icons) and I don't like the side panes (that's true for all software with side panes), I largely prefer to have an additional column in the window (like iTunes and Finder do) than this pane on the side of the window.... windows are no elephants  .
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#7
September 19th, 2004, 01:10 PM
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| I can't read the black text on top of the brush metal, so I'm in the Aqua camp. Unless they allow us to change system font settings, and especially color.
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#8
September 22nd, 2004, 04:35 AM
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| I do acknowledge that Mail could live with a Source pane instead of a drawer for Mailboxes, as it would be more consistent, but then it'd have to be brushed metal like other Sourced windows, and that would change the whole interface completely. I just wish that the integration with Address Book took nicknames into account. Lycander - you're the first person I've ever known to not like the colours in relation to one another. I can see that that MIGHT be a problem if you have poor eyesight, so maybe DeMetalifizer is for you?
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