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lucyb - Aug 11, 2005 - 8:52 pm
HI, have recently bought a mac with a superdrive and although have figured out the dvd burning of our home movies, we can't copy existing dvds.. and make them run. Seems to copy the files but they don't play. We have so called 'ripping' program but still no joy. What are we doing wrong?
thanks lucy
thanks lucy
philippe99 - Aug 13, 2005 - 11:24 am
Lucy, welcome on macosx.com
-------About duplicating DVD---------------
Toast burning software (www.roxio.com) can duplicate CDs/DVDs, either
they contain data or movies. Commercial software
Using DiskCopy, you create first an image (on your hard drive) of your home DVD. Then you burn this image (still with DU) on ablank DVD-R
Just launch Applications/Utilities/DiskUtility, go to the Help and search for "duplicate DVD")
-------About ripping ----------------------
Ripping a DVD allow you to clone the entire DVD on your hard drive or to extract a part of it: the main title, with or without subtitles, with or without foreign languages soundtracks, ...
When the DVD is ripped on the disk, you can burn a copy of it [A].
The http://www.ripdifferent.com/ site is a good reference of the major Mac programs in this field.
I detail hereafter one free and one commercial way to rip a DVD and for each of these solutions, the
main advantages and disadvantages
The free solution
Ripping the DVD
One of the most pwerfull mac software for ripping DVDs is a freeware: Mac The Ripper (MTR)
MTR allows you to:
* clone the full disc or only extract a part of it (main title, chapter,..)
* get rid of Macrovision protection, region lock and most of the encryption protection (including Sony
Archos protection system) [b] [C]
Viewing the ripped DVD
MTR creates a VIDEO_TS folder on the hard drive containing the ripped parts of the DVD. This folder can be opened in the Apple DVD player (File/Open a VIDEO_TS) or in VLC [D]
Burning the DVD
The freeware DVDImager (http://lonestar.utsa.edu/llee/apples...dvdimager.html) will create a burnable image of the contents of the VIDEO_TS folder. Even if DVDImager is able to clone a full DVD, DVDImager
cannot handle protected DVDs
Finally, we can use the burn facility of DiskUtility to burn our job onto a blank DVD
This free method has two main disadvantages:
* the final size of the image of the DVD to be burnt must in the valid range of a DVD-R: 4.7G !
* you must have at least twice the size of DVD to copy free on your hard drive to proceed this manual procedure !
The commerical way (80$)
PopCorn (http://www.roxio.com/en/products/popcorn/index.jhtml) is able to
* rip the DVD (extract the main title, suppress subtitles or soundtracks, ...) exactly as MTR
* to compress (and directly burn) the ripped results to fit in the range of 4.7G
However, Popcorn cannot handle protected DVDs, so MTR is to be used for ripping.
Remarks
[A] Creating a copy a legally bought commercial DVD may be forbidden in some countries
[b] Freing protections of a commercial DVD, even for a personal copy of a legally bought DVD, may be forbidden in some countries
[C] MTR has sometimes great difficulties to get rid of of Sony Archos protection
[D] VLC (www.videolan.org) is a the most powefull freeware viewer of movies on Mac. This soft is able to handle much more formats the Apple DVD Player (and its Quicktime layer) can handle.
-----------So now, Lucy, ---------------------
may I help you on a specific point of the ripping/burning process
Regards
Philippe
-------About duplicating DVD---------------
Toast burning software (www.roxio.com) can duplicate CDs/DVDs, either
they contain data or movies. Commercial software
Using DiskCopy, you create first an image (on your hard drive) of your home DVD. Then you burn this image (still with DU) on ablank DVD-R
Just launch Applications/Utilities/DiskUtility, go to the Help and search for "duplicate DVD")
-------About ripping ----------------------
Ripping a DVD allow you to clone the entire DVD on your hard drive or to extract a part of it: the main title, with or without subtitles, with or without foreign languages soundtracks, ...
When the DVD is ripped on the disk, you can burn a copy of it [A].
The http://www.ripdifferent.com/ site is a good reference of the major Mac programs in this field.
I detail hereafter one free and one commercial way to rip a DVD and for each of these solutions, the
main advantages and disadvantages
The free solution
Ripping the DVD
One of the most pwerfull mac software for ripping DVDs is a freeware: Mac The Ripper (MTR)
MTR allows you to:
* clone the full disc or only extract a part of it (main title, chapter,..)
* get rid of Macrovision protection, region lock and most of the encryption protection (including Sony
Archos protection system) [b] [C]
Viewing the ripped DVD
MTR creates a VIDEO_TS folder on the hard drive containing the ripped parts of the DVD. This folder can be opened in the Apple DVD player (File/Open a VIDEO_TS) or in VLC [D]
Burning the DVD
The freeware DVDImager (http://lonestar.utsa.edu/llee/apples...dvdimager.html) will create a burnable image of the contents of the VIDEO_TS folder. Even if DVDImager is able to clone a full DVD, DVDImager
cannot handle protected DVDs
Finally, we can use the burn facility of DiskUtility to burn our job onto a blank DVD
This free method has two main disadvantages:
* the final size of the image of the DVD to be burnt must in the valid range of a DVD-R: 4.7G !
* you must have at least twice the size of DVD to copy free on your hard drive to proceed this manual procedure !
The commerical way (80$)
PopCorn (http://www.roxio.com/en/products/popcorn/index.jhtml) is able to
* rip the DVD (extract the main title, suppress subtitles or soundtracks, ...) exactly as MTR
* to compress (and directly burn) the ripped results to fit in the range of 4.7G
However, Popcorn cannot handle protected DVDs, so MTR is to be used for ripping.
Remarks
[A] Creating a copy a legally bought commercial DVD may be forbidden in some countries
[b] Freing protections of a commercial DVD, even for a personal copy of a legally bought DVD, may be forbidden in some countries
[C] MTR has sometimes great difficulties to get rid of of Sony Archos protection
[D] VLC (www.videolan.org) is a the most powefull freeware viewer of movies on Mac. This soft is able to handle much more formats the Apple DVD Player (and its Quicktime layer) can handle.
-----------So now, Lucy, ---------------------
may I help you on a specific point of the ripping/burning process
Regards
Philippe
lucyb - Aug 14, 2005 - 4:44 am
Thanks a lot for that.. it worked a treat. It turned out that what we had burned did play but not automatically... did work via the open menu. Will these play on other DVD players? our cheap one won't play them but it doesn't play some other commercial DVD so not surprising. What exactly does 'burning the image'? I assume that isn't literal.
As has often happened since we had this Mac... we were trying too hard!
Thanks again.... we appreciate the help...
Lucy
As has often happened since we had this Mac... we were trying too hard!
Thanks again.... we appreciate the help...
Lucy
philippe99 - Aug 14, 2005 - 7:41 am
> burning the image
With DU, you create an image of the size of the CD-R or DVD-R. This a space on you hard drive in which you'll put things to the maximum of the 650MB (for CD_R) or 4.6G (for DVD-R); this space is not a folder but like a .dmg file, you know when you downlaod Apple's updates
When you have filled this image, you select it in DU and click on the burn icon.
Refer to DU Help (keywords burning dvd)
After, you drag this image to the Trash to unmount it.
Lucy, do not hesiate to contact me (or other tech guy through macosx.com) if you need more help: philippe99 (at) macosx (dot) com
Philippe
With DU, you create an image of the size of the CD-R or DVD-R. This a space on you hard drive in which you'll put things to the maximum of the 650MB (for CD_R) or 4.6G (for DVD-R); this space is not a folder but like a .dmg file, you know when you downlaod Apple's updates
When you have filled this image, you select it in DU and click on the burn icon.
Refer to DU Help (keywords burning dvd)
After, you drag this image to the Trash to unmount it.
Lucy, do not hesiate to contact me (or other tech guy through macosx.com) if you need more help: philippe99 (at) macosx (dot) com
Philippe
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