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bigrand - Jan 2, 2008 - 1:31 am

hi, i am trying to clone my boot disk with a commercial program called tri-backup 4 by tri-edre. i am in administrator mode and have all the proper checkboxes checked, and it copies the files just fine with no errors. the startup preferences pane identifies the cloned disk as a startup optionbut when i choose it and restart, the computer will not boot, saying 'no bootable hfs partition'.
i have repaired permissions and even tried running it from root log in. the program seems to work fine but the disk just does not boot up.
the target disk is an hfs partition of an internal ata disk.

thanks

randy

bigrand - Jan 2, 2008 - 1:40 am

sorry, the title of that should be cloning, not coloning

Cheryl - Jan 2, 2008 - 2:44 pm

Randy,

Is this a second internal drive you are trying to make as bootable or a partition? What did you use to format that drive? How large is the drive?

Are you using the demo version of Tri Backup, the lite version or the full paid version? What OS X version are you running?

Have you tried Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper? They are much easier to use and have been updated (Ti Backup hasn't been updated in over a year - which makes me wonder about it).

Cheryl

bigrand - Jan 2, 2008 - 4:35 pm

hi, this is a second internal ata disk, formatted with apple disk utility with hfs extended.

it is a 128gb partitioned into 4 partitions. i am trying to make one of the partitions the target disk of my clone and as an alternate boot disk.

i bought the full version of tri-backup 4 and operate in administrator mode.

i am running osx 10.2.8 on a beige G3 with 416 mb RAM.

i have tried superduper and it was useless. i have also tried carbon copy cloner and it copies everything over just fine and blesses it, and the new disk is seen as an option in the startup preferences pane, but when i choose it and restart, just like tri-backup, it refuses to boot up. i have also tried Clone X with no better results.

any clues?

thanks

randy

Cheryl - Jan 2, 2008 - 5:07 pm

Randy,

Check System Preferences>Startup Disk. At the bottom, left corner is the pad lock in the locked postion? If it is, this could be preventing you from restarting with another disk.

Also, click on the partition (as it sits on your desktop) once. Now go to the file menu and select Get Info.
In the window that opens look at the very bottom under Ownership & permissions. At the very bottom is the box next to ignore ownership checked? if it is, uncheck it.

Now, open Disk Utility and select that partition in the side bar at the left and click on Repair Permissions.

Now give it a try. Keep me posted on how you do.

Cheryl

bigrand - Jan 2, 2008 - 5:38 pm

hi, thanks for the quick response!
the padlock in the startup preferences pane is unlocked, and the checkbox in the ownership and permissions is unchecked. wouldn't it make more sense for it to IGNORE ownership and permissions?

anyway, i'll repair permissions AGAIN. but i think you must mean repair permissions on the boot disk, since disk utility only lets me repair disk and not repair permissions on the target partition.

thanks

randy

Cheryl - Jan 2, 2008 - 5:57 pm

Randy,

I did mean repair permissions on the partition. If you select the drive that partition is on, can you repair permissions? I have forgotten how 10.2's Disk Utility works.

Just a thought: Who was the owner on that partition (from the Get Info window)?
It should be Owner - system, and Group - Admin just as your boot drive.

Cheryl

p.s. Is that extra drive set as secondary with the jumpers?

bigrand - Jan 2, 2008 - 6:38 pm

hi again. in disk utility in first aid, if i select the hard drive with the partitions, but not he partitions themselves, it still does not let me repair permissions, only repair disk option is available.

i checked owner and group for my partitions, and they were all over the place, so i changed them all to system and admin as you suggested. should i also click the 'apply to enclosed items' button? the boot drive as you said, was already set properly.

i will try a clone again with tri-backup as well as carbon copy cloner. it may take awhile!

thanks

randy

bigrand - Jan 2, 2008 - 7:03 pm

hi, i ;have been investigating carbon copy cloner tips. it says to log in as admin. i know this is different from root, but i have never set up an admin account. is this the same as my regular log in account -? or do i have to jump through hoops to set up an admin account like it did for setting up a root account?

thanks

randy

bigrand - Jan 2, 2008 - 7:03 pm

hi, i ;have been investigating carbon copy cloner tips. it says to log in as admin. i know this is different from root, but i have never set up an admin account. is this the same as my regular log in account -? or do i have to jump through hoops to set up an admin account like it did for setting up a root account?

thanks

randy

Cheryl - Jan 2, 2008 - 8:02 pm

Randy,

Your account should be set as admin by default, especially if you only have one account. To check, go to Accounts in System Preferences. Click on your user name click Edit User. You will have to type in your password. Now you will be able to see c for "Allow user to administer this computer" as well as other options.

Cheryl

bigrand - Jan 2, 2008 - 9:22 pm

hi, thanks for the response. i checked accounts and my default is admin, so that is great.

i am going to try cloning again, so probably won't be back until tomorrow sometime,
thanks

randy

Cheryl - Jan 2, 2008 - 9:39 pm

Randy,

I am hoping it works this time around.

Cheryl

Cheryl - Jan 4, 2008 - 7:35 am

Randy,

How are you doing?

Cheryl