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VIZA - Aug 3, 2005 - 8:11 am
I've made several upgrades to me BlueB3: installed one more HD (IDE, 80Gig)added RAM to 768 Meg and installed a zip-drive.
Initially, this new configuration worked well and I used a zip drive and CD ROM.
But suddenly, after copying files from one to another HD, my Mac stopped seeing and responding to zip drive and CD ROM.
Can anyone help me to fix this?
Initially, this new configuration worked well and I used a zip drive and CD ROM.
But suddenly, after copying files from one to another HD, my Mac stopped seeing and responding to zip drive and CD ROM.
Can anyone help me to fix this?
Cheryl - Aug 3, 2005 - 10:12 pm
Vladimir,
It could be just a corrupt file within the system. Give this a try and let me know the results.
1. Shut down the computer if it is on.
2. Press the power button to start the computer.
3. Immediately press and hold the Command (Apple) key and the "s" key for single-user mode.
4. At the command-line prompt, type: /sbin/fsck -fy
5. Press Return.
The fsck utility will go through five "phases" then return information about the disk's utilization and fragmentation. Once the check is finished, if no issue is found, you should see "** The volume (name of volume) appears to be OK."
Note: If fsck alters, repairs, or fixes anything, it will display the message:
***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
Important: If this message appears, repeat the fsck command until it no longer appears. It's OK if you need to do several "passes" of fsck, because first-pass repairs may uncover additional issues.
When fsck reports that, "** The volume (name of volume) appears to be OK.",
6. type: reboot
7. Press Return.
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Cheryl
It could be just a corrupt file within the system. Give this a try and let me know the results.
1. Shut down the computer if it is on.
2. Press the power button to start the computer.
3. Immediately press and hold the Command (Apple) key and the "s" key for single-user mode.
4. At the command-line prompt, type: /sbin/fsck -fy
5. Press Return.
The fsck utility will go through five "phases" then return information about the disk's utilization and fragmentation. Once the check is finished, if no issue is found, you should see "** The volume (name of volume) appears to be OK."
Note: If fsck alters, repairs, or fixes anything, it will display the message:
***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
Important: If this message appears, repeat the fsck command until it no longer appears. It's OK if you need to do several "passes" of fsck, because first-pass repairs may uncover additional issues.
When fsck reports that, "** The volume (name of volume) appears to be OK.",
6. type: reboot
7. Press Return.
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Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 4, 2005 - 6:50 am
Dear Cheryl,
Sorry for no being clear at first: I have a Blue MacG3 with OS 9. You advice didn't work at all and no Command prompt window was available. I did however, run a lengthy scan of the second HD and got a message that it "appears to be OK" but with the warning that this IDE drive cannot be used as a start-up disc.
I've found that, during my experiments I disconnected cable from CD ROM to the motherboard. What I have now is my Mac has its SCSI plugged into its place and CD ROM&ZIP drives plugged into their place at a motherboard. I can use them all but I don't see any connectors that would enable me to plug in a second HD.
I am in a big need to add a storage to my old SCSI and this addition of 80 Gig IDE is very welcomed.
I figure that, if I'm able to work with it (while disconnecting a CD ROM & ZIP) I should be able to connect this extra drive without sacrificing my disc drvies. I just don't see how can that be done. Any advice?
Thanks,
Vladimir
Sorry for no being clear at first: I have a Blue MacG3 with OS 9. You advice didn't work at all and no Command prompt window was available. I did however, run a lengthy scan of the second HD and got a message that it "appears to be OK" but with the warning that this IDE drive cannot be used as a start-up disc.
I've found that, during my experiments I disconnected cable from CD ROM to the motherboard. What I have now is my Mac has its SCSI plugged into its place and CD ROM&ZIP drives plugged into their place at a motherboard. I can use them all but I don't see any connectors that would enable me to plug in a second HD.
I am in a big need to add a storage to my old SCSI and this addition of 80 Gig IDE is very welcomed.
I figure that, if I'm able to work with it (while disconnecting a CD ROM & ZIP) I should be able to connect this extra drive without sacrificing my disc drvies. I just don't see how can that be done. Any advice?
Thanks,
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 4, 2005 - 9:14 am
Vladimir,
I now understand the problem. When you installed the additional drive, did you change the jumpers to make it a slave drive? There should have been instructions with the drive for that. Here is more information:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=24342
Did you format the drive using Drive Setup and selecting Mac OS Extended?
You should be able to have both hard drives and use of the CD drive and zip with no problem - as long as you have the jumpers set to slave on the extra drive.
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Cheryl
I now understand the problem. When you installed the additional drive, did you change the jumpers to make it a slave drive? There should have been instructions with the drive for that. Here is more information:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=24342
Did you format the drive using Drive Setup and selecting Mac OS Extended?
You should be able to have both hard drives and use of the CD drive and zip with no problem - as long as you have the jumpers set to slave on the extra drive.
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Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 4, 2005 - 9:40 am
Cheryl,
I've been so nice to me. Thank you!
Yes, I did format the second drive. I have no idea though as to what setting both drives have: the SCSI drive has never had its jumper reset, and the second drive used to be in my PC as a "slave" and its jumper set as a 'slave". I didn't see any indication on screen, or otherwise was inform/alerted in any way by Mac that I need to set both drives somehow differently.
Both drives 'see' each other and are active when I connect second drive. I was thinking about the disposition of them but I am a novice to Macs and am using a guess work rather than solid knowledge. The terminolody is also confuses me: if a 'start-up' disc is my old SCSI and the second canot be used as a strat-up, I assume that the second is a 'passive" one that makes it a slave, in my opinion.
I'd use your sophistication a bit more if you let me email you images of both drives for you to look and decide on my correctness. Can I email you directly?
Vladimir
I've been so nice to me. Thank you!
Yes, I did format the second drive. I have no idea though as to what setting both drives have: the SCSI drive has never had its jumper reset, and the second drive used to be in my PC as a "slave" and its jumper set as a 'slave". I didn't see any indication on screen, or otherwise was inform/alerted in any way by Mac that I need to set both drives somehow differently.
Both drives 'see' each other and are active when I connect second drive. I was thinking about the disposition of them but I am a novice to Macs and am using a guess work rather than solid knowledge. The terminolody is also confuses me: if a 'start-up' disc is my old SCSI and the second canot be used as a strat-up, I assume that the second is a 'passive" one that makes it a slave, in my opinion.
I'd use your sophistication a bit more if you let me email you images of both drives for you to look and decide on my correctness. Can I email you directly?
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 4, 2005 - 9:55 am
Vladimir,
If you let me know what model your extra drive is, I will find the instructions on how to correctly set the jumpers.
Looking at the connection side of the drive, you have the long section where the cable ribbon connects. On the other side is a smaller section for the power connection. These pins are larger in diameter. In the middle of the two is where the jumpers are and you should have what looks like a plastic cover to cover over specific pins.
I will be going to work shortly and I will check my machine for the exact way the jumpers should be placed as I have a slave and master drive installed.
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Cheryl
If you let me know what model your extra drive is, I will find the instructions on how to correctly set the jumpers.
Looking at the connection side of the drive, you have the long section where the cable ribbon connects. On the other side is a smaller section for the power connection. These pins are larger in diameter. In the middle of the two is where the jumpers are and you should have what looks like a plastic cover to cover over specific pins.
I will be going to work shortly and I will check my machine for the exact way the jumpers should be placed as I have a slave and master drive installed.
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 4, 2005 - 10:16 am
Cheryl,
Can't thank you enough. You are representing a true Mac brotherhood and I greatly appreciate that.
To my drives.
First, an SCSI drive labeled QUANTUM FIREBALL EX, a 6GB FBEXA.
Second is a former 'slave' from my PC, labeled: SEAGATE BARRACUDA ATA IV, ST 380021A, a 80GB drive.
I did not touch jumper on SCSI and did try repositioning of the jumper at SEAGATE drvie, with no success. I left it as it originally was when it served as a 'slave' at PC.
I do have some basic knowledge in PCs that allow me not asking for help when needed. Not so with Macs.
You could be right aboutthe jumpers and I'm looking forward to see what you'll find out.
Best,
Vladimir
Can't thank you enough. You are representing a true Mac brotherhood and I greatly appreciate that.
To my drives.
First, an SCSI drive labeled QUANTUM FIREBALL EX, a 6GB FBEXA.
Second is a former 'slave' from my PC, labeled: SEAGATE BARRACUDA ATA IV, ST 380021A, a 80GB drive.
I did not touch jumper on SCSI and did try repositioning of the jumper at SEAGATE drvie, with no success. I left it as it originally was when it served as a 'slave' at PC.
I do have some basic knowledge in PCs that allow me not asking for help when needed. Not so with Macs.
You could be right aboutthe jumpers and I'm looking forward to see what you'll find out.
Best,
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 4, 2005 - 6:09 pm
Vladimir,
There are five sets(a double row) of pins in the jumper section (between the cable ribbon slot and the power pins). On a Master drive - counting from the left the jumpers should be set on the second set and the fifth or last set of pins.
On a slave drive the jumpers should be on the fourth and fifth set - the last two set of pins (at the far right).
Are your drives set like that?
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Cheryl
There are five sets(a double row) of pins in the jumper section (between the cable ribbon slot and the power pins). On a Master drive - counting from the left the jumpers should be set on the second set and the fifth or last set of pins.
On a slave drive the jumpers should be on the fourth and fifth set - the last two set of pins (at the far right).
Are your drives set like that?
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 4, 2005 - 6:17 pm
Cheryl,
Thanks so much for your kind assistance. I've found the solution: a three-way-ribbon! After connecting both drives to one ATA plug and CD ROM & ZIP to another, I got what I was looking for: both drives are active and so are the CD ROM & ZIP.
I believe, my original settings of master & slave were correct.
Best to you,
Vladimir
Thanks so much for your kind assistance. I've found the solution: a three-way-ribbon! After connecting both drives to one ATA plug and CD ROM & ZIP to another, I got what I was looking for: both drives are active and so are the CD ROM & ZIP.
I believe, my original settings of master & slave were correct.
Best to you,
Vladimir
VIZA - Aug 4, 2005 - 6:17 pm
Cheryl,
Thanks so much for your kind assistance. I've found the solution: a three-way-ribbon! After connecting both drives to one ATA plug and CD ROM & ZIP to another, I got what I was looking for: both drives are active and so are the CD ROM & ZIP.
I believe, my original settings of master & slave were correct.
Best to you,
Vladimir
Thanks so much for your kind assistance. I've found the solution: a three-way-ribbon! After connecting both drives to one ATA plug and CD ROM & ZIP to another, I got what I was looking for: both drives are active and so are the CD ROM & ZIP.
I believe, my original settings of master & slave were correct.
Best to you,
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 4, 2005 - 6:50 pm
Vladimir,
This is one case where I would have came up with that, if I was sitting in front of your computer. But I am glad I brought up the master & slave to make you look again at the set up.
Did you find the cables all curled up inside the tower ? They are usually hidden to keep it out of the way. I know I had to search for them in my B & W G3.
Are you working smoothly now?
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Cheryl
This is one case where I would have came up with that, if I was sitting in front of your computer. But I am glad I brought up the master & slave to make you look again at the set up.
Did you find the cables all curled up inside the tower ? They are usually hidden to keep it out of the way. I know I had to search for them in my B & W G3.
Are you working smoothly now?
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 5, 2005 - 7:29 am
Cheryl,
Yes, I am able to work smoothly, now. This isn't my cup of tea, historically, I was a PC user but my wife uses Mac only. After playing with Macs last few months I liked them a lot and am convinced that my next machine will rather be a Mac than PC. The hurdle however, is a totally different set of the software that must be purchased and also all the peripherals. I use my PC for living and have well-equipped office. My wife has the same with Mac, in two places. The Blue Mac goes to replace an older Performa and is my gift to my wife.
Now am facing a new challenge with this Mac: include it into the network and connect it to the Internet.
I am very grateful for your input. Best to you,
Vladimir
Yes, I am able to work smoothly, now. This isn't my cup of tea, historically, I was a PC user but my wife uses Mac only. After playing with Macs last few months I liked them a lot and am convinced that my next machine will rather be a Mac than PC. The hurdle however, is a totally different set of the software that must be purchased and also all the peripherals. I use my PC for living and have well-equipped office. My wife has the same with Mac, in two places. The Blue Mac goes to replace an older Performa and is my gift to my wife.
Now am facing a new challenge with this Mac: include it into the network and connect it to the Internet.
I am very grateful for your input. Best to you,
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 5, 2005 - 9:38 am
Vladimir,
Just about everything that you do on a PC can be done on a Mac. There is so many shareware programs that can do what you need to do.
You can do a search at:
http://www.macupdate.com/
http://www.versiontracker.com/
and http://guide.apple.com/index.lasso - hardware and software.
Here is a helpful page to help you network and internet connect.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106877
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
Just about everything that you do on a PC can be done on a Mac. There is so many shareware programs that can do what you need to do.
You can do a search at:
http://www.macupdate.com/
http://www.versiontracker.com/
and http://guide.apple.com/index.lasso - hardware and software.
Here is a helpful page to help you network and internet connect.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106877
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 5, 2005 - 9:42 am
Cheryl, you are so sweet!
Thank you very much -every word of yours will be put to use!
Today I've encountered ploblem with settings.
I've hooked up this Blue Mac to the LCD monitor. Picture looked perfect until I opened up a Word 5.1 from older apps. The page looked 'jammed' from the sides, narrow and tall. And no "zoom" or the scale change as I have in MS Word on PC!
Can you offer your suggestion - I went through all the settings for this version of the Word and I couldn't adjust this vital application.
Vladimir
Thank you very much -every word of yours will be put to use!
Today I've encountered ploblem with settings.
I've hooked up this Blue Mac to the LCD monitor. Picture looked perfect until I opened up a Word 5.1 from older apps. The page looked 'jammed' from the sides, narrow and tall. And no "zoom" or the scale change as I have in MS Word on PC!
Can you offer your suggestion - I went through all the settings for this version of the Word and I couldn't adjust this vital application.
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 5, 2005 - 10:02 am
Vladmir,
You can adjust the window. Look at the bottom of the page at the right bottom corner.
Move the mouse to the corner.
Click and hold down the mouse button.
Drag the mouse (while holding down the mouse button) to the right and down.
this will enlarge the window - and should make the viewing better.
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Cheryl
You can adjust the window. Look at the bottom of the page at the right bottom corner.
Move the mouse to the corner.
Click and hold down the mouse button.
Drag the mouse (while holding down the mouse button) to the right and down.
this will enlarge the window - and should make the viewing better.
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 5, 2005 - 10:41 am
Cheryl,
Yes, I did it and felt like an idiot. Those slight differences between interfaces and controls are made me feel dumb, repeatedly. I guess, I'll encounter more than once, similar things before gain some skill.
If this Blue Mac is so good, one can only wonder how far ahead all those new G5s are....
Having PC with Wondows was the most hectic time in my life, with all those constant crashes and viruses, stalled applications etc.
From now on I am the Mac devotee, and thanks again,
All the best,
Vladimir
Yes, I did it and felt like an idiot. Those slight differences between interfaces and controls are made me feel dumb, repeatedly. I guess, I'll encounter more than once, similar things before gain some skill.
If this Blue Mac is so good, one can only wonder how far ahead all those new G5s are....
Having PC with Wondows was the most hectic time in my life, with all those constant crashes and viruses, stalled applications etc.
From now on I am the Mac devotee, and thanks again,
All the best,
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 5, 2005 - 4:41 pm
Vladimir,
Glad to be of help.
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Cheryl
Glad to be of help.
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Thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 7, 2005 - 11:51 am
Dear Cheryl,
Here I am, again.
This time I've bumped into the problem with connecting Mac to the cable modem. I am a Charter broadband (cable) user and hooked up my Mac directly, trying both -an Ethernet and a USB cables. No results. The Charter website says it doesn't support makintosh, which was a big blow to me.
What can I do now to get connected?
I can't imagine that Charter leaves all Mac users off.
Also, there's another problem. I plan to install a DVD burner that requires a MAC OS9.2 and higher.
I currently have a Mac OS9 and am afraid that without being able to connect to the Apple website with my Mac I won't be able to download a needed update. I can't use my PC to download the software, or can I?
Anyway, I know that connecting a new computer into the PC environment isn't going to be easy.
Please, help. Your advice is very much welcome.
Vladimir
Here I am, again.
This time I've bumped into the problem with connecting Mac to the cable modem. I am a Charter broadband (cable) user and hooked up my Mac directly, trying both -an Ethernet and a USB cables. No results. The Charter website says it doesn't support makintosh, which was a big blow to me.
What can I do now to get connected?
I can't imagine that Charter leaves all Mac users off.
Also, there's another problem. I plan to install a DVD burner that requires a MAC OS9.2 and higher.
I currently have a Mac OS9 and am afraid that without being able to connect to the Apple website with my Mac I won't be able to download a needed update. I can't use my PC to download the software, or can I?
Anyway, I know that connecting a new computer into the PC environment isn't going to be easy.
Please, help. Your advice is very much welcome.
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 7, 2005 - 12:35 pm
Vladimir,
Most ISPs will say they do not support Mac, but you can still connect with out using their software.
An easy way is to use Internet Setup Assistant. If you do not have that, then use the control panels. It is best to use ethernet.
Go to Apple Menu>Control Panels>TCP/IP
When that opens the first item is Connect via: Select Ethernet from the pull down menu.
The next item is Configure. Select DHCP.
Close the control panel window.
You will be prompted to save the configuration. Save it.
Restart the computer.
Now you should be able to launch your web browser and connect to the internet automatically.
You then can download the update Use 9.2.1 update.
The 9.2.2 is only recommended if you are installing OS X and keeping the OS 9 system folder for Classic.
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Cheryl
Most ISPs will say they do not support Mac, but you can still connect with out using their software.
An easy way is to use Internet Setup Assistant. If you do not have that, then use the control panels. It is best to use ethernet.
Go to Apple Menu>Control Panels>TCP/IP
When that opens the first item is Connect via: Select Ethernet from the pull down menu.
The next item is Configure. Select DHCP.
Close the control panel window.
You will be prompted to save the configuration. Save it.
Restart the computer.
Now you should be able to launch your web browser and connect to the internet automatically.
You then can download the update Use 9.2.1 update.
The 9.2.2 is only recommended if you are installing OS X and keeping the OS 9 system folder for Classic.
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Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 7, 2005 - 2:09 pm
Cheryl,
Even before I got your reply, I tried to do exactly what you wrote, step by step. Neither automatically, nor using manual adjustment (after I retrieved an IP address and Subnet ##,) - I hever went online.
I have a pretty standard cable modem with both, USB and Ethernet connection. When I connect Mac and modem with the Ethernet cable, the Mac OS doesn't start and the screen stays grey.
I did all the settings on the Control panel using a USB port. This way Mac starts but ignores Internet completely.
Vladimir
Even before I got your reply, I tried to do exactly what you wrote, step by step. Neither automatically, nor using manual adjustment (after I retrieved an IP address and Subnet ##,) - I hever went online.
I have a pretty standard cable modem with both, USB and Ethernet connection. When I connect Mac and modem with the Ethernet cable, the Mac OS doesn't start and the screen stays grey.
I did all the settings on the Control panel using a USB port. This way Mac starts but ignores Internet completely.
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 7, 2005 - 9:19 pm
Vladimir,
I checked the Charter help site and they do not have any instructions for the Mac. But I think I know how you can work around it.
I am assuming that you have a Windows machine nearby and it is connected to the cable modem. You can create a home network.
The window machine connected to the cable modem via USB connection.
Ethernet cable from Windows machine to an Ethernet Router/Hub.
Ethernet cable from Hub to Mac.
Now set up the Windows machine to share the internet connection. I found instructions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314066
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Cheryl
I checked the Charter help site and they do not have any instructions for the Mac. But I think I know how you can work around it.
I am assuming that you have a Windows machine nearby and it is connected to the cable modem. You can create a home network.
The window machine connected to the cable modem via USB connection.
Ethernet cable from Windows machine to an Ethernet Router/Hub.
Ethernet cable from Hub to Mac.
Now set up the Windows machine to share the internet connection. I found instructions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;314066
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Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 8, 2005 - 10:06 am
Cheryl,
After I tried connecting a modem to the Mac using USB, then Ethernet cables, the Mac suddenly stopped seeing a second HD. I did re-installation of the OS, didn't help.
It just cut it back forever.
What I also noticed, when Mac was operational, that occasionally, it didn't see a second HD. Restarting was helpful, but I was curious why did it happen?
I used a'master-slave' jumpers diligently and don't think that was an issue.
Any suggestins? The machine is effectively, dead right now.
Vladimir
After I tried connecting a modem to the Mac using USB, then Ethernet cables, the Mac suddenly stopped seeing a second HD. I did re-installation of the OS, didn't help.
It just cut it back forever.
What I also noticed, when Mac was operational, that occasionally, it didn't see a second HD. Restarting was helpful, but I was curious why did it happen?
I used a'master-slave' jumpers diligently and don't think that was an issue.
Any suggestins? The machine is effectively, dead right now.
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 8, 2005 - 5:04 pm
Vladimir,
How old is the PRAM battery in it? That might need to be replaced. I have seen Mac's slowly lose it's 'mind' and eventually not start up because of a low battery.
You can take that battery in to any Radio Shack and they should have a replacement for you.
Do you have a third party Utility - like Disk Warrior, Techtool Pro or Norton utilities for OS 9? Using that CD to start up the machine - and having it scan and repair all the problems just might bring it back to life.
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Cheryl
How old is the PRAM battery in it? That might need to be replaced. I have seen Mac's slowly lose it's 'mind' and eventually not start up because of a low battery.
You can take that battery in to any Radio Shack and they should have a replacement for you.
Do you have a third party Utility - like Disk Warrior, Techtool Pro or Norton utilities for OS 9? Using that CD to start up the machine - and having it scan and repair all the problems just might bring it back to life.
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 8, 2005 - 5:26 pm
Cheryl,
I can take a battery to the RS as you suggested, just to make sure.
Unfortunately, I don't have any software at all. All my stuff is for PCs.
I did some damage control today and machine sees its own HD and operates. No luck with the second HD though -after several hours of experiments with jumpers etc.
Also, I couldn't go online via my PC as a host (getaway) - moreover: connecting Mac to the cable modem made a modem lose its functionality with PC and I spent hours reinstalling and setting up a modem with my PC.
The second disk can only be seen if I connect it to the motherboard by the separate ribbon, unplugging a CD ROM drive. No more luck with three-plug ribbon.
I wish I had some more knowledge as yo what else can I use within the OS.
Vladimir
I can take a battery to the RS as you suggested, just to make sure.
Unfortunately, I don't have any software at all. All my stuff is for PCs.
I did some damage control today and machine sees its own HD and operates. No luck with the second HD though -after several hours of experiments with jumpers etc.
Also, I couldn't go online via my PC as a host (getaway) - moreover: connecting Mac to the cable modem made a modem lose its functionality with PC and I spent hours reinstalling and setting up a modem with my PC.
The second disk can only be seen if I connect it to the motherboard by the separate ribbon, unplugging a CD ROM drive. No more luck with three-plug ribbon.
I wish I had some more knowledge as yo what else can I use within the OS.
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 8, 2005 - 5:39 pm
Vladimir,
Here is where you can get a utility for the Mac.
Tech Tool Pro - http://www.micromat.com/tt_pro_4/tt_pro_4.html
I use Disk Warrior - http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/index.html
If all that is installed is OS 9, then you can also use Norton Utilities. Do not use it if you have OS X installed on the drives.
You can buy it on line or at a store that sells Apple computers and software.
As for your cable modem, do you have an ethernet hub to give a network set up a try? That will keep the modem connected to your PC.
I am really surprised at the failure of the three plug ribbon. You did have it working. I wonder if the second hard drive just needs a little TLC from a third party utility.
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Here is where you can get a utility for the Mac.
Tech Tool Pro - http://www.micromat.com/tt_pro_4/tt_pro_4.html
I use Disk Warrior - http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/index.html
If all that is installed is OS 9, then you can also use Norton Utilities. Do not use it if you have OS X installed on the drives.
You can buy it on line or at a store that sells Apple computers and software.
As for your cable modem, do you have an ethernet hub to give a network set up a try? That will keep the modem connected to your PC.
I am really surprised at the failure of the three plug ribbon. You did have it working. I wonder if the second hard drive just needs a little TLC from a third party utility.
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VIZA - Aug 9, 2005 - 3:10 pm
Cheryl,
I am online now. Used a router and had no problem setting it.
I tried an Apple store to find an upgrade for the OS9 so that I could attempt to fix up my second disc and make it visible but no luck there. This website appeared with partially blank pages, including one with downloads.
I browsed for more sources but in vain.
ARAM battery was replaced but didn't make a difference -the machine still sees no second HD.
Rest seems to be fine. I would surely love to be able download an upgrade for the OS9! Are there any places that I can download from?
Vladimir
I am online now. Used a router and had no problem setting it.
I tried an Apple store to find an upgrade for the OS9 so that I could attempt to fix up my second disc and make it visible but no luck there. This website appeared with partially blank pages, including one with downloads.
I browsed for more sources but in vain.
ARAM battery was replaced but didn't make a difference -the machine still sees no second HD.
Rest seems to be fine. I would surely love to be able download an upgrade for the OS9! Are there any places that I can download from?
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 9, 2005 - 5:48 pm
Vladimir,
Here is the direct link to OS 9 updates.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75288
There really is no other place to get the updates.
It is strange that you get blank web pages. What web browser are you using and what version?
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Here is the direct link to OS 9 updates.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75288
There really is no other place to get the updates.
It is strange that you get blank web pages. What web browser are you using and what version?
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VIZA - Aug 9, 2005 - 7:04 pm
Dear Cheryl,
I went by your links and was able to download and install an upgrade for the Mac OS9.
That solved all my problems including the second HD that has immediately appeared visible and, after initializing it, operational.
So, am now work online, with an updated IE 5.1, Outlook express and awaiting a new DVD burner in the mail.
The last problem I cannot solve is that I've never set an Outlook Express to receive a web mail: I personally use my own POP3 & MIcrosoft Outlook and would kindly ask you to make me aware of the pitfalls if any, in setting Mac's Outlook to receive a mail from AOL (my wife's).
I thank you profusely,
Vladimir
I went by your links and was able to download and install an upgrade for the Mac OS9.
That solved all my problems including the second HD that has immediately appeared visible and, after initializing it, operational.
So, am now work online, with an updated IE 5.1, Outlook express and awaiting a new DVD burner in the mail.
The last problem I cannot solve is that I've never set an Outlook Express to receive a web mail: I personally use my own POP3 & MIcrosoft Outlook and would kindly ask you to make me aware of the pitfalls if any, in setting Mac's Outlook to receive a mail from AOL (my wife's).
I thank you profusely,
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 9, 2005 - 7:41 pm
Vladimir,
You can not use any email program/client to get AOL mail except using AOL's program or their web mail. That is AOL's protocol and there is no other way around it.
You will have to either install AOL for OS 9, or have her log in to their web site.
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You can not use any email program/client to get AOL mail except using AOL's program or their web mail. That is AOL's protocol and there is no other way around it.
You will have to either install AOL for OS 9, or have her log in to their web site.
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VIZA - Aug 11, 2005 - 12:06 pm
Hi Cheryl,
I am almost done with my Blue Mac.
Today I've installed a new DVD burner and started playing back CDs. The CD plays fine but there are several problems I didn't know how to address.
1. The DVD playback doesn't work with the QuickTime player. An Apple DVD player seem to having a problem with this VDV Rom as well. So - no video at this time.
2. I tried to copy (save) a misic CD on hard disk: no luck.
I keep playing with it but would surely appreciate your input in order to expedite this setting process.
3. I tried to download an iTunes. It came available for Mac OS10. Is this true and I can't find any other version suitable for OS9.2?
I particularly concerned with my inability to copy CDs and do transfers of MP3s: my wife is a songwriter and needs this feature very much!
Vladimir
I am almost done with my Blue Mac.
Today I've installed a new DVD burner and started playing back CDs. The CD plays fine but there are several problems I didn't know how to address.
1. The DVD playback doesn't work with the QuickTime player. An Apple DVD player seem to having a problem with this VDV Rom as well. So - no video at this time.
2. I tried to copy (save) a misic CD on hard disk: no luck.
I keep playing with it but would surely appreciate your input in order to expedite this setting process.
3. I tried to download an iTunes. It came available for Mac OS10. Is this true and I can't find any other version suitable for OS9.2?
I particularly concerned with my inability to copy CDs and do transfers of MP3s: my wife is a songwriter and needs this feature very much!
Vladimir
VIZA - Aug 11, 2005 - 3:01 pm
Cheryl,
I tried to open up your reply on Mac and lost it: it opened a blank page, when I clicked your link.
Please, re-send your reply, I'll pick it on my PC.
Thanks,
Vladimir
I tried to open up your reply on Mac and lost it: it opened a blank page, when I clicked your link.
Please, re-send your reply, I'll pick it on my PC.
Thanks,
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 11, 2005 - 3:05 pm
Vladmir,
Here is the link for the OS 9 iTunes version.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120073
Apple DVD: Verify the appropriate extensions are installed and duplicate extensions are not installed. There should only be one CD/DVD driver installed in the Extensions folder. If multiple drivers are installed, the drive may read CD discs correctly but not DVD discs. The UDF Volume Access extension must also be installed.
If the DVD disc does not appear on the desktop when the correct extensions are installed, but a CD-ROM discs appears properly, or if the DVD-Video disc appears but contains zero items, try inserting the DVD disc while pressing the Command, Option and I keys until the DVD disc appears. The computer will try to make the disc available on the desktop as an ISO formatted disc instead of a UDF formatted disc.
How are you saving the contents of the CD when you copy it to the hard drive? Are you getting any errors or messages?
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Here is the link for the OS 9 iTunes version.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120073
Apple DVD: Verify the appropriate extensions are installed and duplicate extensions are not installed. There should only be one CD/DVD driver installed in the Extensions folder. If multiple drivers are installed, the drive may read CD discs correctly but not DVD discs. The UDF Volume Access extension must also be installed.
If the DVD disc does not appear on the desktop when the correct extensions are installed, but a CD-ROM discs appears properly, or if the DVD-Video disc appears but contains zero items, try inserting the DVD disc while pressing the Command, Option and I keys until the DVD disc appears. The computer will try to make the disc available on the desktop as an ISO formatted disc instead of a UDF formatted disc.
How are you saving the contents of the CD when you copy it to the hard drive? Are you getting any errors or messages?
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VIZA - Aug 12, 2005 - 10:16 am
Cheryl,
Thanks for your invaluable assistance.
While dealing with DVD player, I've encountered yet another problem.
My wife wants to transfer files from her old Mac called "Power computing" model Power center pro 240. It has Mac OS9 and couple of gig files/apps.
I've connected a Blue Mac with this PC240 via Ethernet cable and tried to activate them and connect via TCP.
This seems to be the issue - Macs don't see each other.
What do I do wrong?
Vladimir
Thanks for your invaluable assistance.
While dealing with DVD player, I've encountered yet another problem.
My wife wants to transfer files from her old Mac called "Power computing" model Power center pro 240. It has Mac OS9 and couple of gig files/apps.
I've connected a Blue Mac with this PC240 via Ethernet cable and tried to activate them and connect via TCP.
This seems to be the issue - Macs don't see each other.
What do I do wrong?
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 12, 2005 - 11:11 am
Vladimir,
There is a trick with using file sharing with an older machine.
First, you need an ethernet cross over cable - not a general Cat 5 ethernet cable.
Second, you need to turn on file sharing on both computer, then restart both computer - at the same time (or close to it).
Here is a guide to help you:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106657
There are some applications that will not work without doing an install (as opposed to drag and drop copying).
If these programs are from a download, you can copy the downloaded installer.
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There is a trick with using file sharing with an older machine.
First, you need an ethernet cross over cable - not a general Cat 5 ethernet cable.
Second, you need to turn on file sharing on both computer, then restart both computer - at the same time (or close to it).
Here is a guide to help you:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106657
There are some applications that will not work without doing an install (as opposed to drag and drop copying).
If these programs are from a download, you can copy the downloaded installer.
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VIZA - Aug 12, 2005 - 11:22 am
Cheryl,
Thanks!
I've guessed most of what you wrote. I decided to go an easier way: started a file transfer using a ZIP drive instead of connecting Macs. They never saw each other anyway.
After messing up my Blue Mac I received a grey screen on it with no intention to boot, even after I inserted a CD ROM with OS9.
What now?!
Vladimir
Thanks!
I've guessed most of what you wrote. I decided to go an easier way: started a file transfer using a ZIP drive instead of connecting Macs. They never saw each other anyway.
After messing up my Blue Mac I received a grey screen on it with no intention to boot, even after I inserted a CD ROM with OS9.
What now?!
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 12, 2005 - 12:08 pm
Vladimir,
What did you do on the Blue Mac? It was working smoothly!
When you inserted the OS 9 CD, did you hold down the C key to force it to boot from the CD?
Do you have a third party utility - like Norton utilities, Disk Warrior or TechTool Pro for OS 9? Try starting yo the Mac with that CD and have it scan the drive and do all the repairs.
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What did you do on the Blue Mac? It was working smoothly!
When you inserted the OS 9 CD, did you hold down the C key to force it to boot from the CD?
Do you have a third party utility - like Norton utilities, Disk Warrior or TechTool Pro for OS 9? Try starting yo the Mac with that CD and have it scan the drive and do all the repairs.
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VIZA - Aug 12, 2005 - 1:23 pm
No, I didn't hold the "C" key because I never knew thet proper way of forcing this machine to boot!
When I got a grey screen once again, and the Mac didn't respond to the command to tunr off, I pulled a plug and I now have a dead Mac.
It does not respond to the "on/Off" button on the face, nor it starts from the keyboard.
I've checked a power block and replaced a fuze inside it but it didn't help. The Mac requires a repair and God only knows what have I burnt. I suspect an electronic switch connected to the "On/Off" button died.
The file transfer is done by using a ZIP drive. As soon as I get an idea what to do with the power, I'll surely use a "C" key to force this thing to boot!
That's what happens to people who uses the guess work rather than experience. On other hand, how on Earth can you gain that very experience?!
I'd surely appreciate if you suggest the easiest way of getting out of this mess. The Blue Mac is a little technical marvel and I adore it. I just needed it to absorb all the files off the old machines....
Vladimir
When I got a grey screen once again, and the Mac didn't respond to the command to tunr off, I pulled a plug and I now have a dead Mac.
It does not respond to the "on/Off" button on the face, nor it starts from the keyboard.
I've checked a power block and replaced a fuze inside it but it didn't help. The Mac requires a repair and God only knows what have I burnt. I suspect an electronic switch connected to the "On/Off" button died.
The file transfer is done by using a ZIP drive. As soon as I get an idea what to do with the power, I'll surely use a "C" key to force this thing to boot!
That's what happens to people who uses the guess work rather than experience. On other hand, how on Earth can you gain that very experience?!
I'd surely appreciate if you suggest the easiest way of getting out of this mess. The Blue Mac is a little technical marvel and I adore it. I just needed it to absorb all the files off the old machines....
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 12, 2005 - 1:52 pm
Vladimir,
You do learn from your mistakes. You might have blown the logic board on that baby. Do you hear any chimes when you try to start up?
There is a battery on the logic board. If you get it replaced (Radio Shack has replacements), it just might start up for you.
When you want to boot from the CD, you need to insert CD and immediately hold down the C key. (in some cases you will need to hold down the power button to restart).
Here is a book that can help. Do not worry about the title. It gives instructions that is very understandable. I started with these books many many moons ago.
http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/W...764506528.html
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You do learn from your mistakes. You might have blown the logic board on that baby. Do you hear any chimes when you try to start up?
There is a battery on the logic board. If you get it replaced (Radio Shack has replacements), it just might start up for you.
When you want to boot from the CD, you need to insert CD and immediately hold down the C key. (in some cases you will need to hold down the power button to restart).
Here is a book that can help. Do not worry about the title. It gives instructions that is very understandable. I started with these books many many moons ago.
http://www.josseybass.com/WileyCDA/W...764506528.html
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VIZA - Aug 13, 2005 - 4:35 pm
Cheryl,
I was lucky last time and my Blue Mac didn't burn< just a bad connection played a trick with me.
The machine is working but of course, there are more problems with setting it up.
1. No connection to the LaserWriter 320 works. We have a good, operational printer. After I've transferred several HDs to this Mac, I selected and moved to the Extensions folder, all the previous printers. Unfortunately, whatever printer I select with Chooser, it doesn't work. I tried to download a driver and found none online.
2. Playing video. The current settings keep a DVD player underbuffered, one can see video just in a few second fragments. Are there any cure for this?
O, thanks for the iTunes link: I now have it all operational. Perhaps, it's the best software of this kind.
Well, what can you say now, my dear councellor?
Vladimir
I was lucky last time and my Blue Mac didn't burn< just a bad connection played a trick with me.
The machine is working but of course, there are more problems with setting it up.
1. No connection to the LaserWriter 320 works. We have a good, operational printer. After I've transferred several HDs to this Mac, I selected and moved to the Extensions folder, all the previous printers. Unfortunately, whatever printer I select with Chooser, it doesn't work. I tried to download a driver and found none online.
2. Playing video. The current settings keep a DVD player underbuffered, one can see video just in a few second fragments. Are there any cure for this?
O, thanks for the iTunes link: I now have it all operational. Perhaps, it's the best software of this kind.
Well, what can you say now, my dear councellor?
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 13, 2005 - 5:23 pm
Vladimir,
1. Printer - You should use LaserWriter 8. Also, check the extensions folder for the following:
Desktop Printer Spooler
Desktop PrintMonitor
Printer Descriptions
PrintingLib
Print Monitor
How do you have the printer connected to the computer?
2. Video - DVD Player should have a preference option in either the File menu or the Edit menu. See if there is an option to make the buffer higher.
It has been a while since I started in OS 9. If you have trouble let me know and I will check my handy book.
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1. Printer - You should use LaserWriter 8. Also, check the extensions folder for the following:
Desktop Printer Spooler
Desktop PrintMonitor
Printer Descriptions
PrintingLib
Print Monitor
How do you have the printer connected to the computer?
2. Video - DVD Player should have a preference option in either the File menu or the Edit menu. See if there is an option to make the buffer higher.
It has been a while since I started in OS 9. If you have trouble let me know and I will check my handy book.
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VIZA - Aug 13, 2005 - 6:44 pm
I still have no downloaded driver for LW8. Went through number of sites - no driver. And, of course how could I know that for the LW 320 one should have a LW8 ready?
The Mac connected to the printer with the cable with the Mac tiny round plug on one end and the two-row pinned other side. The two row plug goes into Mac. I wish I had a USB connection....
Will play with DVD later - need to have it printing, first.
Vladimir
The Mac connected to the printer with the cable with the Mac tiny round plug on one end and the two-row pinned other side. The two row plug goes into Mac. I wish I had a USB connection....
Will play with DVD later - need to have it printing, first.
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 13, 2005 - 7:55 pm
Vladimir,
I found exactly what you need.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58308
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I found exactly what you need.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58308
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VIZA - Aug 14, 2005 - 1:47 pm
Dear Cheryl,
You have to admit that using Mac the first time in the life like I'm doing, is quite a confusing experience!
Yes, I thank you for the proper link to the proper driver installer.
I downloaded it and installed (twice!) - having no further luck with activating a printer, seeing a printer, making a default printer etc.
The new printer doesn't apper anywhere and I cannot go anywhere without the guidance.
I've read all that ReadMe file that came with the driver installer. I tried to troubleshoot but failed. I give up, seriously.
Maybe the confusion gets more severe becaouse I have to work for living, using my PC sitting right nearby in my office, alongside with the Mac?
I'm used to the perfectly organized Programs in my PC. I cannot get used to the lack of the list of programs that would allow me to choose one to work with.
I can hardly remember if ever been more confused with setting a PC than I am with the Mac right now.
For example: I did download iTunes and installed it. But it beats me if I know what to do when I want to burn my own CD with it.
I have a very sophisticated software in my PC and am using it daily. Most of my skills were developed on the run. With Mac it's much harder. Can't imagine what would I do without your assistance?
Vladimir
You have to admit that using Mac the first time in the life like I'm doing, is quite a confusing experience!
Yes, I thank you for the proper link to the proper driver installer.
I downloaded it and installed (twice!) - having no further luck with activating a printer, seeing a printer, making a default printer etc.
The new printer doesn't apper anywhere and I cannot go anywhere without the guidance.
I've read all that ReadMe file that came with the driver installer. I tried to troubleshoot but failed. I give up, seriously.
Maybe the confusion gets more severe becaouse I have to work for living, using my PC sitting right nearby in my office, alongside with the Mac?
I'm used to the perfectly organized Programs in my PC. I cannot get used to the lack of the list of programs that would allow me to choose one to work with.
I can hardly remember if ever been more confused with setting a PC than I am with the Mac right now.
For example: I did download iTunes and installed it. But it beats me if I know what to do when I want to burn my own CD with it.
I have a very sophisticated software in my PC and am using it daily. Most of my skills were developed on the run. With Mac it's much harder. Can't imagine what would I do without your assistance?
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 14, 2005 - 2:26 pm
Vladimir,
Because the Mac is slightly foreign to you, I think you are getting frustrated a bit sooner than you would on your PC.
Click twice on the Hard drive.
Click twice on System Folder.
Click twice on Extensions.
Go to the View menu and select by list.
Now see if you have these files installed:
Desktop Printer Spooler
Desktop PrintMonitor
Printer Descriptions
PrintingLib
Print Monitor
LaserWriter 8
If you do, then it is a matter of the correct settings.
Go to the Apple Menu>Chooser ---- At the same time you are selecting the Chooser hold down the option and the Apple keys. It is slightly tricky to do this, but you are holding down those keys as you release the mouse button when you select Chooser. Continue to hold down those two keys until you hear an alert sound. Release the keys. Now the Chooser window will come up.
Do you have a list of different printers at the left?
At the right, bottom is AppleTalk. Is it active or nonactive?
The answers to those questions will help me get you printing.
As for burning a CD, you do need a CD burner as the G3 did not come with one. Then you need a burning program such as Roxio's Toast. Turn on the burner, then launch Toast. You then can drag and drop the files you want to burn. If the burner is external, it should have come with audio jacks. Those jacks need to be plugged into the back of the computer in order to get the sound files.
I sure hope I did not confuse you with all this.
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Because the Mac is slightly foreign to you, I think you are getting frustrated a bit sooner than you would on your PC.
Click twice on the Hard drive.
Click twice on System Folder.
Click twice on Extensions.
Go to the View menu and select by list.
Now see if you have these files installed:
Desktop Printer Spooler
Desktop PrintMonitor
Printer Descriptions
PrintingLib
Print Monitor
LaserWriter 8
If you do, then it is a matter of the correct settings.
Go to the Apple Menu>Chooser ---- At the same time you are selecting the Chooser hold down the option and the Apple keys. It is slightly tricky to do this, but you are holding down those keys as you release the mouse button when you select Chooser. Continue to hold down those two keys until you hear an alert sound. Release the keys. Now the Chooser window will come up.
Do you have a list of different printers at the left?
At the right, bottom is AppleTalk. Is it active or nonactive?
The answers to those questions will help me get you printing.
As for burning a CD, you do need a CD burner as the G3 did not come with one. Then you need a burning program such as Roxio's Toast. Turn on the burner, then launch Toast. You then can drag and drop the files you want to burn. If the burner is external, it should have come with audio jacks. Those jacks need to be plugged into the back of the computer in order to get the sound files.
I sure hope I did not confuse you with all this.
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VIZA - Aug 14, 2005 - 4:21 pm
Cheryl,
It is very interesting experience.
I did download a SW8 driver. When I installed it it went to the Apple Post script folder.
Opening Extensions I've found NO SUCH A FOLDER AT ALL.
I repeated the installation - didn't help.
Where on earth could this installation be gone?!
The printer and a CD buring with iTunes are two priorities. About iTunes: downloaded software gave me playing capacity. I then downloaded an Authoring Support software but it didn't turn my iTunes into the burner! Instead, I got a radio playing!
I am not really frustrated. It's just seems to me that the PC is organized simpler, in terms of finding software and using it. But I thinnk the best experience is that that I've developed a great dependency on you!!
Vladimir
It is very interesting experience.
I did download a SW8 driver. When I installed it it went to the Apple Post script folder.
Opening Extensions I've found NO SUCH A FOLDER AT ALL.
I repeated the installation - didn't help.
Where on earth could this installation be gone?!
The printer and a CD buring with iTunes are two priorities. About iTunes: downloaded software gave me playing capacity. I then downloaded an Authoring Support software but it didn't turn my iTunes into the burner! Instead, I got a radio playing!
I am not really frustrated. It's just seems to me that the PC is organized simpler, in terms of finding software and using it. But I thinnk the best experience is that that I've developed a great dependency on you!!
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 14, 2005 - 4:40 pm
Vladimir,
First, iTunes can not burn a CD unless you have a cd burner drive. And in OS 9, you need Toast.
http://www.roxio.com/en/products/toast5/index.jhtml
Do a Find File. Go to the File Menu and select Find. Type in Apple Postscript.
Did you check the extensions folder for those files I listed? Do you have them?
Did you open the chooser like I detailed. Does the printer icon LaserWriter 8 show up in the chooser? Do you have AppleTalk on ?
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First, iTunes can not burn a CD unless you have a cd burner drive. And in OS 9, you need Toast.
http://www.roxio.com/en/products/toast5/index.jhtml
Do a Find File. Go to the File Menu and select Find. Type in Apple Postscript.
Did you check the extensions folder for those files I listed? Do you have them?
Did you open the chooser like I detailed. Does the printer icon LaserWriter 8 show up in the chooser? Do you have AppleTalk on ?
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VIZA - Aug 14, 2005 - 5:37 pm
Cheryl,
It is a mistery: I did three installations of the SW8. Here's what you wrote and my answers:
Do a Find File. Go to the File Menu and select Find. Type in Apple Postscript.
- did it! Then it searches and finds nothing!
Did you check the extensions folder for those files I listed? Do you have them?
- the files seem to be there, separately, ewxcept for the SW8 - it looks like a dead icon
Did you open the chooser like I detailed. Does the printer icon LaserWriter 8 show up in the chooser? Do you have AppleTalk on ?
- the Chooser doesn't show an SW8 icon active. Highlighting it doesn't make a difference. AppleTalk is On but I tried everything else.
When doing actual installation, it looks like a program goes into some Apple Postscript folder that later cannot be found.
I spent hours locating the program! It's disappearing after installation.
I am depleted....
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It is a mistery: I did three installations of the SW8. Here's what you wrote and my answers:
Do a Find File. Go to the File Menu and select Find. Type in Apple Postscript.
- did it! Then it searches and finds nothing!
Did you check the extensions folder for those files I listed? Do you have them?
- the files seem to be there, separately, ewxcept for the SW8 - it looks like a dead icon
Did you open the chooser like I detailed. Does the printer icon LaserWriter 8 show up in the chooser? Do you have AppleTalk on ?
- the Chooser doesn't show an SW8 icon active. Highlighting it doesn't make a difference. AppleTalk is On but I tried everything else.
When doing actual installation, it looks like a program goes into some Apple Postscript folder that later cannot be found.
I spent hours locating the program! It's disappearing after installation.
I am depleted....
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Cheryl - Aug 14, 2005 - 7:01 pm
Vladimir,
It is not SW8 you are looking for. It is LW8.
With your direct connection, AppleTalk should be off.
Is the printer turned on? Did you double check that the cords are in snugly?
Did you restart the computer after the installation?
It could be that that version will not work with the system version you have installed.
Here is what you do:
Start up the computer with the OS 9 CD. (insert CD, restart computer, immediately hold down the c key).
When it opens, click twice on the installer icon.
In the second screen, select clean install, then you need to select custom install. When the window opens to select what you want to install, uncheck everything - except the printer software.
Follow the prompts to install. You will be installing just the printer files. You will need to restart the computer.
Now see if you can print.
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It is not SW8 you are looking for. It is LW8.
With your direct connection, AppleTalk should be off.
Is the printer turned on? Did you double check that the cords are in snugly?
Did you restart the computer after the installation?
It could be that that version will not work with the system version you have installed.
Here is what you do:
Start up the computer with the OS 9 CD. (insert CD, restart computer, immediately hold down the c key).
When it opens, click twice on the installer icon.
In the second screen, select clean install, then you need to select custom install. When the window opens to select what you want to install, uncheck everything - except the printer software.
Follow the prompts to install. You will be installing just the printer files. You will need to restart the computer.
Now see if you can print.
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Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 15, 2005 - 11:01 am
Cheryl,
The installation of the LW8 has never happened -neither in traditional way nor in the way you suggested.
Starting Mac from the OS disk, holding a "C' key brings me to the same interface when I click on the LW8 icon.
It never offers me any different installation but one.
I did it 5-6 times.
Needless to remind me to restart the machine or do something basic/
I have a PC with dosens of programs installed for hundreds of times. I use PC to make living. I never in this life, been in so much trouble activating a plain printer.
The cable is fine, the printer was working with the same Mac that's HD contents was transferred to this one.
My wife is absolutely illiterate in terms of doing anything to her Mac.
It is terribly frustrationg experience.
Here's what I've done successfully with this Mac, under your command:
* Installed an OS 9.2 upgrade.
* Installed proper iTunes.
* transferred all files from other computers using ZIP drive.
Where I'm failing:
* activating a DVD player (left after the printer is working)
* activate a printer
* find a solution to the recurring random reminder of the second HD that it's unreadable and suggestion to initialize it. After restarting Mac the second HD apperas OK but it scares me anyway. I'm afraid to load it with files, this reminder makes me very nervous.
So, what's my next move should be?
Vladimir
The installation of the LW8 has never happened -neither in traditional way nor in the way you suggested.
Starting Mac from the OS disk, holding a "C' key brings me to the same interface when I click on the LW8 icon.
It never offers me any different installation but one.
I did it 5-6 times.
Needless to remind me to restart the machine or do something basic/
I have a PC with dosens of programs installed for hundreds of times. I use PC to make living. I never in this life, been in so much trouble activating a plain printer.
The cable is fine, the printer was working with the same Mac that's HD contents was transferred to this one.
My wife is absolutely illiterate in terms of doing anything to her Mac.
It is terribly frustrationg experience.
Here's what I've done successfully with this Mac, under your command:
* Installed an OS 9.2 upgrade.
* Installed proper iTunes.
* transferred all files from other computers using ZIP drive.
Where I'm failing:
* activating a DVD player (left after the printer is working)
* activate a printer
* find a solution to the recurring random reminder of the second HD that it's unreadable and suggestion to initialize it. After restarting Mac the second HD apperas OK but it scares me anyway. I'm afraid to load it with files, this reminder makes me very nervous.
So, what's my next move should be?
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 15, 2005 - 5:04 pm
Vladimir,
We do have a good record so far. I think we can solve the rest of the list.
* activating a DVD player (left after the printer is working)
DVD Player should have a preference option in either the File menu or the Edit menu. See if there is an option to make the buffer higher.
* activate a printer
Grrrr. I am getting just as frustrated as you are.
With the serial cable you are using, AppleTalk should be off/inactive.
With all the tried installations, let's double check some things.
Open the Hard Drive>System Folder>Extensions>Printer Descriptions.
Do you have LaserWriter Personal 320 in there?
Now check for LaserWriter 8. It should be sitting by itself in the Extensions folder. If those files are there, then you should be able to have the chooser see the printer.
* find a solution to the recurring random reminder of the second HD that it's unreadable and suggestion to initialize it. After restarting Mac the second HD apperas OK but it scares me anyway. I'm afraid to load it with files, this reminder makes me very nervous.
that second hard drive - did you format it using Drive Setup? You can use Disk First aid on it, letting it repair all the problems it finds. If that does not work, you will need Norton Utilities for OS 9, or Disk Warrior for OS 9. Either one of those will repair the drive.
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We do have a good record so far. I think we can solve the rest of the list.
* activating a DVD player (left after the printer is working)
DVD Player should have a preference option in either the File menu or the Edit menu. See if there is an option to make the buffer higher.
* activate a printer
Grrrr. I am getting just as frustrated as you are.
With the serial cable you are using, AppleTalk should be off/inactive.
With all the tried installations, let's double check some things.
Open the Hard Drive>System Folder>Extensions>Printer Descriptions.
Do you have LaserWriter Personal 320 in there?
Now check for LaserWriter 8. It should be sitting by itself in the Extensions folder. If those files are there, then you should be able to have the chooser see the printer.
* find a solution to the recurring random reminder of the second HD that it's unreadable and suggestion to initialize it. After restarting Mac the second HD apperas OK but it scares me anyway. I'm afraid to load it with files, this reminder makes me very nervous.
that second hard drive - did you format it using Drive Setup? You can use Disk First aid on it, letting it repair all the problems it finds. If that does not work, you will need Norton Utilities for OS 9, or Disk Warrior for OS 9. Either one of those will repair the drive.
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Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 15, 2005 - 5:35 pm
Cheryl,
I like your optimism and eagerness to help very much!
The Extensions folder at the HD contains the following printers as a true extensions:
Color SW 1500
Color SW 2500
Color SW Pro
Color SW 600
Two printers Laser Writer 300/LS
Laser Writer 8
When I click on each extension, the same sticker appears, indicating that this is an extension, etc.etc.
The Chooser however, does show aforenamed extensions as an active except the Laser Writer 8 - they look like a printer with the page in it and the sign "&" on the page. When clicked, the icon stays dead.
The AppleTalk normally is ACTIVE.
As you remember, I was trying to activate the only printer I've got and this is LW320. You directed me to download a LW8 to enable activation of the 320. Sounds weird but I've already getting used to it with Mac.
No other ideas in my head - it's just spinning wildly. Can't believe I didn't start a plain printer. Feel dumb...
Vladimir
I like your optimism and eagerness to help very much!
The Extensions folder at the HD contains the following printers as a true extensions:
Color SW 1500
Color SW 2500
Color SW Pro
Color SW 600
Two printers Laser Writer 300/LS
Laser Writer 8
When I click on each extension, the same sticker appears, indicating that this is an extension, etc.etc.
The Chooser however, does show aforenamed extensions as an active except the Laser Writer 8 - they look like a printer with the page in it and the sign "&" on the page. When clicked, the icon stays dead.
The AppleTalk normally is ACTIVE.
As you remember, I was trying to activate the only printer I've got and this is LW320. You directed me to download a LW8 to enable activation of the 320. Sounds weird but I've already getting used to it with Mac.
No other ideas in my head - it's just spinning wildly. Can't believe I didn't start a plain printer. Feel dumb...
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 15, 2005 - 6:01 pm
Vladimir,
AppleTalk must be turned off.
Go to the Apple Menu and select Control Panels>AppleTalk.
From that panel turn it off.
Now close the window, and go to the Chooser.
You should be able to connect to the printer now.
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AppleTalk must be turned off.
Go to the Apple Menu and select Control Panels>AppleTalk.
From that panel turn it off.
Now close the window, and go to the Chooser.
You should be able to connect to the printer now.
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VIZA - Aug 20, 2005 - 8:17 am
Hi Cheryl,
I did not resolve my problem with Mac, I was just busy addressing other family-related issues.
The Blue Mac does not print with LW320 - period.
What fascinates me is the fact that I've copied an older Mac to this new one. Entire HD is copied. Every application from this old HD, when opened in the Blue Mac, is working - Quiicken, Word, Excel. All but driver for the printer!
When starting an old Mac it immediately prints everything just fine.
I have exhausted all means trying to make my new Mac work.Didn't happen. The installation of the driver fails time after time -nothing helps. But why doesn't existing driver that sits in the System folder of the old Mac's HD doesn't want to work?!
Vladimir
I did not resolve my problem with Mac, I was just busy addressing other family-related issues.
The Blue Mac does not print with LW320 - period.
What fascinates me is the fact that I've copied an older Mac to this new one. Entire HD is copied. Every application from this old HD, when opened in the Blue Mac, is working - Quiicken, Word, Excel. All but driver for the printer!
When starting an old Mac it immediately prints everything just fine.
I have exhausted all means trying to make my new Mac work.Didn't happen. The installation of the driver fails time after time -nothing helps. But why doesn't existing driver that sits in the System folder of the old Mac's HD doesn't want to work?!
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 20, 2005 - 8:45 am
Vladimir,
Since the printer does indeed work, the Blue Mac is not 'seeing' the printer.
What I need is a more descriptive picture of your set up.
What exact model is the Blue Mac - is it a blue and white tower, or a blue all in one iMac?
What port at the back of the Mac do you have the printer connected to?
In thinking over this problem, it could be that AppleTalk is not set correctly.
Go to the Apple Menu>Control Panels>AppleTalk.
In that window, there is a pull down menu. The default is to have AppleTalk set to ethernet. You want to set it to the port you are using at the back of the machine. Allow AppleTalk to be active, and save the settings when you close the window.
Now, go to the chooser and see if it can 'see' the printer.
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Cheryl
Since the printer does indeed work, the Blue Mac is not 'seeing' the printer.
What I need is a more descriptive picture of your set up.
What exact model is the Blue Mac - is it a blue and white tower, or a blue all in one iMac?
What port at the back of the Mac do you have the printer connected to?
In thinking over this problem, it could be that AppleTalk is not set correctly.
Go to the Apple Menu>Control Panels>AppleTalk.
In that window, there is a pull down menu. The default is to have AppleTalk set to ethernet. You want to set it to the port you are using at the back of the machine. Allow AppleTalk to be active, and save the settings when you close the window.
Now, go to the chooser and see if it can 'see' the printer.
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Cheryl
VIZA - Aug 20, 2005 - 8:53 am
Cheryl,
The Blue Mac is a G3 White & Blue tower with 400 mhz processor.
I use a parallel cable. The AppleTalk was set and reset many times. The Chooser doesn't see the printer! Of course, there's something wrong with settings.
I've installed number of types of printers to PCs, dosens of times. The problem I'm facing now looks rather weird.
I am growing suspicious of the cable I use but with it, or without, - why can't I set up a plain installation of the driver that I've downloaded?
I've checked drivers in the older Mac's System folder -they're dated a year of 1999! From then on, my wife was using several LW320s! We now have two working LW320 and one -LW300. None is working with this Blue Mac. Hooked to the old Mac they perform just fine!
Vladimir
The Blue Mac is a G3 White & Blue tower with 400 mhz processor.
I use a parallel cable. The AppleTalk was set and reset many times. The Chooser doesn't see the printer! Of course, there's something wrong with settings.
I've installed number of types of printers to PCs, dosens of times. The problem I'm facing now looks rather weird.
I am growing suspicious of the cable I use but with it, or without, - why can't I set up a plain installation of the driver that I've downloaded?
I've checked drivers in the older Mac's System folder -they're dated a year of 1999! From then on, my wife was using several LW320s! We now have two working LW320 and one -LW300. None is working with this Blue Mac. Hooked to the old Mac they perform just fine!
Vladimir
Cheryl - Aug 20, 2005 - 9:38 am
Vladimir,
There is no parallel port on a Mac. Did you mean Serial ?
Double check what the icon is at the port on the Mac that you are using for the printer.
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Cheryl
There is no parallel port on a Mac. Did you mean Serial ?
Double check what the icon is at the port on the Mac that you are using for the printer.
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
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