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TICKET ARCHIVE -> Crashing Again And Again!!!
Graver - Jul 12, 2005 - 6:09 am
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Hi I have a powerbook 1.25 g4 with 768 mb ddr ram, and I have just bougth the game Football Manager 2005. As I love football, and have just moved to Australia not knowing anybody, I was looking forward to playing the game.... But as I tried to initialize a new game, it crashed!!!!! With this message-

Date/Time: 2005-07-12 09:34:44 +0200
OS Version: 10.3.9 (Build 7W98)
Report Version: 2

Command: fm final
Path: /Applications/Football Manager 2005/Football Manager.app/Contents/MacOSClassic/fm final
Version: 5.0.5 (5.0.5)
PID: 388
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000034

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 fm final 0x02a4f79c 0x2008000 + 0xa4779c
1 fm final 0x029bfde8 0x2008000 + 0x9b7de8
2 fm final 0x029be598 0x2008000 + 0x9b6598
3 fm final 0x021251b8 0x2008000 + 0x11d1b8
4 fm final 0x02135f00 0x2008000 + 0x12df00
5 fm final 0x028274e4 0x2008000 + 0x81f4e4
6 fm final 0x02821c44 0x2008000 + 0x819c44
7 fm final 0x02934d78 0x2008000 + 0x92cd78
8 fm final 0x02934d20 0x2008000 + 0x92cd20
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x901c45f8 __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 0xf4
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x901c1958 __CFRunLoopRun + 0x5c8
11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x901c5e6c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 0x148
12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92885f60 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 0xac
13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9288c6c8 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 0x17c
14 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x928ae1a0 AcquireNextEventInMode + 0x48
15 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x928ab670 RunApplicationEventLoop + 0x88
16 fm final 0x02934758 0x2008000 + 0x92c758
17 fm final 0x02935038 0x2008000 + 0x92d038

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90018e18 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 0x8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000e9d4 _pthread_cond_wait + 0x268
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x902da570 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 0xb0
3 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x99012440 ReadSchedulerThreadEntryPoint + 0x1b4
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90007878 mach_msg_trap + 0x8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900073f8 mach_msg + 0x38
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x901c16e0 __CFRunLoopRun + 0x350
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x901c5e6c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 0x148
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x907054b8 _ZN10HALRunLoop9OwnThreadEPv + 0x104
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x907052ec _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_ + 0x30
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90007878 mach_msg_trap + 0x8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900073f8 mach_msg + 0x38
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x901c16e0 __CFRunLoopRun + 0x350
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x901c5e6c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 0x148
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9022f32c CFRunLoopRun + 0x34
5 com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer 0x067372bc _ZN3AVS26DestroyAVCDeviceControllerEPNS_19AVCDeviceControllerE + 0x18c
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9001a6cc syscall + 0xc
1 ...ple.CoreServices.OSServices 0x906200cc BSD_waitevent + 0x2c
2 ...ple.CoreServices.OSServices 0x9061cac0 CarbonSelectThreadFunc + 0xb0
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900171d8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 0x8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000e9dc _pthread_cond_wait + 0x270
2 ...ple.CoreServices.OSServices 0x90627300 CarbonOperationThreadFunc + 0x50
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024910 _pthread_body + 0x28

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x02a4f79c srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
cr: 0x44022224 xer: 0x00000004 lr: 0x029bfde8 ctr: 0x022098b0
r0: 0x029bfde8 r1: 0xbfffda00 r2: 0x01010000 r3: 0x00000034
r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x000d1360 r6: 0x0000002c r7: 0x00000c03
r8: 0x00000000 r9: 0x00000000 r10: 0x00000000 r11: 0xa02b1268
r12: 0x01021b3c r13: 0x00000006 r14: 0x004c40a0 r15: 0xbfffdba4
r16: 0x011d85f4 r17: 0x00000001 r18: 0x00000001 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x0a2b4308 r21: 0x0b4461b0 r22: 0x0b105040 r23: 0x00000001
r24: 0x00004627 r25: 0x00000000 r26: 0xbfffdb00 r27: 0x083921a8
r28: 0x08392298 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x0b3b9370 r31: 0x012909d4

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Can anyone please help me? What can I do, and giving up is not an option!!
Thanks Guys
philippe99 - Jul 12, 2005 - 7:02 am
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Peetr,
EXC_BAD_ACCESS can be related to RAM problem or hardware.
In your log, I see nothing special related to hardware.
Do you add extra RAM to your machine: I guess 256 + 512 added ?
If yes, as FM2005 requires at least 256Mb, could you try to remove the extra RAM and see if this works ?
Is this game the sole one which crashes like this ?
When you say "initialize a new game", have you been able to play at least one game, i.e could you laod a save game..or wouldn't able to use this game at all ?
Regards
Philippe
Graver - Jul 12, 2005 - 7:59 am
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Cool answeringspeed here!!!
I will try to remove the extra ram tomorrow when get some tools.
It is the only game that crashes like this, except for championship manager 4!!? It crashes when I have set the preferences for a new game, and presses "create game".
I played "manager 4" many times before, all of the sudden this started happening, could it because some of the RAM went lose or something?!
In the specs the computer has, itīs still saying 768 RAM...?!
And if one the RAM blocks came lose, wouldnīt I still be able to play, when the game requires at least 256?

Many thanks!!
Peetr
philippe99 - Jul 12, 2005 - 8:18 am
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I'm not sure that the 256Mb -minimum requirement- will be enough for a cumfortable game.

Mya aim in my advice is to check if the RAM can be the culprit or no.
If no, we'll have to invistage in another direction.

In your answer, something is borying me: (1) all the games which crashed are football related ? Are they produced by the same company ? Do you have othe intensive games (UT,Doom, MedalOfHonor,...) ? Do you thes foot games with a gamepad or something USB-related ?
(2) you say "suddenly happen": do you have installed something (update, program,.... Could try to repair the permissions on your drive (Applications/Utilities/DiskUtility) ?

Regards
Phil
Graver - Jul 12, 2005 - 4:12 pm
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The football games are produced by the same company, and I donīt use anything USB-related, except for my mouse but that oneīs in good shape.
I played medal of honor, but that was before the problem occured in first place.
It has been quite a while since, I saw the problem first with the old game, and I do update my computer when there is something to upgrade. How do you repair the permissions?

Thanks
Peetr
philippe99 - Jul 13, 2005 - 2:57 am
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Repairing permissions

Launch Applications/Utilities/DiskUtility
On the left, select your drive.
On the right select the SOS tab.
At the end of the right pane, you see two main buttons:
* repair permissions: proceed
* repair disk: if you face boot problems, many KPs,..

About your mac maintenance, may I suggest you good lectures on this site:
http://www.thexlab.com
and especially
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/maintscripts.html
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/maintainingmacosx.html
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