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joeswind - Dec 9, 2005 - 3:01 pm
I have my emai junk mail filter set at high, and up until a week ago, it kept almost everything out. Now for the last week everything is coming through, even when I set it to the highest level of protection. What's wrong? What's changed?
Stuartpau - Dec 10, 2005 - 4:19 pm
HI I use Entourage in much the same way as yu do, especially as far as Junk Mail is concerned.
I have notice that sometimes it seems to switch off the protection nad allows other people in.
The other thing that happens is that the people creating the Junk mail area lways trying to get around filters and a lot of the time they eventually succeed.
About the only way I have seen in any application that virtually guarantees Junk Rejection is to create your own rules. IF you do not know ow to do this in Entourage let me know and I will go over it.
Make absolutely sure that you do not visit sites that ask for your info, especially the ones that offer free IPods and other stuff, these are just traps for mailing lists.
The amount of true spam is decreasing but the amount of mailing list email is increasing. You need to make sure that it is Spam you are getting and nothing from proper Email List.
By law now these list operators have to unsubscribe you when you ask them to otherwise they face heavy penalties.
When I notice I was getting a lot of so called Spam leak thru, it turned out to be from one visit (Yup, I was suckered in toa Free I Pod, didn't get it of course, the stuff I would have had to buy would have cost morethan the Ipod.). I even checked out before going anyfurther but they had my Info.
Anyway I tried the Unsubscribe thing which used to be a real No NO as it just proved the Email adddress was active. Well not I get very little Junk mail, it was actually worth the effort unsubscribing.
Of course there are always the wierd ones that do get through, from Weird Sex, to the CIA is watching you, nothing seemsd to stop these except specific rules. The only problem with this, is a lot of the time the Email is highly specific and onoly comes one time. IF you make a rule for this type of email you will end up witha ton of rules that effectivel do nothing constructive at all, they just sit there.
Wait for a few with similar content, or similar return addresses and then block the wording after the @symbol.
I would make sure the Junk is placed ina Junk Email folder so you can check it periodically in case anything you really want gets put here as well. When that happens, you can add the address to your Address book and you will then get it as you are suposed to.
Hope this helps
Stuart
I have notice that sometimes it seems to switch off the protection nad allows other people in.
The other thing that happens is that the people creating the Junk mail area lways trying to get around filters and a lot of the time they eventually succeed.
About the only way I have seen in any application that virtually guarantees Junk Rejection is to create your own rules. IF you do not know ow to do this in Entourage let me know and I will go over it.
Make absolutely sure that you do not visit sites that ask for your info, especially the ones that offer free IPods and other stuff, these are just traps for mailing lists.
The amount of true spam is decreasing but the amount of mailing list email is increasing. You need to make sure that it is Spam you are getting and nothing from proper Email List.
By law now these list operators have to unsubscribe you when you ask them to otherwise they face heavy penalties.
When I notice I was getting a lot of so called Spam leak thru, it turned out to be from one visit (Yup, I was suckered in toa Free I Pod, didn't get it of course, the stuff I would have had to buy would have cost morethan the Ipod.). I even checked out before going anyfurther but they had my Info.
Anyway I tried the Unsubscribe thing which used to be a real No NO as it just proved the Email adddress was active. Well not I get very little Junk mail, it was actually worth the effort unsubscribing.
Of course there are always the wierd ones that do get through, from Weird Sex, to the CIA is watching you, nothing seemsd to stop these except specific rules. The only problem with this, is a lot of the time the Email is highly specific and onoly comes one time. IF you make a rule for this type of email you will end up witha ton of rules that effectivel do nothing constructive at all, they just sit there.
Wait for a few with similar content, or similar return addresses and then block the wording after the @symbol.
I would make sure the Junk is placed ina Junk Email folder so you can check it periodically in case anything you really want gets put here as well. When that happens, you can add the address to your Address book and you will then get it as you are suposed to.
Hope this helps
Stuart
joeswind - Dec 11, 2005 - 8:18 pm
Thanks for the info. How do you create a rule for junk in general, or is the rule for certain key words?
Stuartpau - Dec 14, 2005 - 8:12 pm
It is almost impossible to create a single rule that will knock out all your junk mail.
A lot of the time and I think I mentioned it before you will see the stuff coming from a specific domain. By eliminating that domain under the rules using the from ?? rule, you will block off that domain. Thw trouble is that if it is something lke Yahoo, or Hotmail you might end up putting a lot of emails that you want in the Junk mail folder, this is a good reason to check it out before emptying it. Don't forget even when you emplty it, the emails still only go to the deleted items folder, and if you have not set up a Schedule to empty that periodically you will still have the Email on your system. A lot of this is done so you don't trash something by accident, but it can cause a huge backup of old Emails. I checked my Wife's inbox the other day and with the 2004 Entourage it shows up if you sort by date sent or received as today, Yesterday, Last week Etc. I folled hers with her watching until it got past the end of this year. Selected all of it and dumped over 2000 Emails that she thoght would just go away.
You don't want to know what was in her Junk Email and deleted items folders.
Most of the Junk email coming in from the US is sort of legitimate and you just have to follow the unsubscribe and get taken off the list. You have to be careful with the wierder ones that appear like misspelt garbage as these are often people sort of Phishing to verify your address. Do not think of unsubscribing from their lists as you WILL end up with a ton of garbage. All you can do with them is rule them out. I try to use Keywords and select if any of the following conditions are met. That way you get them all. If you select if all the following conditions are met you will miss some of them. Of course there may be some that you do want so that second rule can be useful.
My rule book used to be massive, but lately with help from my ISP and the newer Entourage, it is whole bunch smaller than it used to be.
Hopefully one day we will only et in our Emails things we want, but we are a long way off from that happening. This thing is a World wide now and a lot of places do not agree to follow our laws and as far as I know there is virtually nothing you and I can do to stop them.
A friend of mine with one company that kept sending him requests t obuy stuff had an 800 number in their mail, so what he did was every time he got an email from them, he called that nummber and kept on calling it, telling them to stop wasting his time with junk mail. As the 800 number costs them for every call they pretty soon got the message.
We all need to hit these people with everything we have becuase these guys are often the source of malicious attempts to defraud you, wreck you computer and so on, so have no mercy on them.
Stuart
A lot of the time and I think I mentioned it before you will see the stuff coming from a specific domain. By eliminating that domain under the rules using the from ?? rule, you will block off that domain. Thw trouble is that if it is something lke Yahoo, or Hotmail you might end up putting a lot of emails that you want in the Junk mail folder, this is a good reason to check it out before emptying it. Don't forget even when you emplty it, the emails still only go to the deleted items folder, and if you have not set up a Schedule to empty that periodically you will still have the Email on your system. A lot of this is done so you don't trash something by accident, but it can cause a huge backup of old Emails. I checked my Wife's inbox the other day and with the 2004 Entourage it shows up if you sort by date sent or received as today, Yesterday, Last week Etc. I folled hers with her watching until it got past the end of this year. Selected all of it and dumped over 2000 Emails that she thoght would just go away.
You don't want to know what was in her Junk Email and deleted items folders.
Most of the Junk email coming in from the US is sort of legitimate and you just have to follow the unsubscribe and get taken off the list. You have to be careful with the wierder ones that appear like misspelt garbage as these are often people sort of Phishing to verify your address. Do not think of unsubscribing from their lists as you WILL end up with a ton of garbage. All you can do with them is rule them out. I try to use Keywords and select if any of the following conditions are met. That way you get them all. If you select if all the following conditions are met you will miss some of them. Of course there may be some that you do want so that second rule can be useful.
My rule book used to be massive, but lately with help from my ISP and the newer Entourage, it is whole bunch smaller than it used to be.
Hopefully one day we will only et in our Emails things we want, but we are a long way off from that happening. This thing is a World wide now and a lot of places do not agree to follow our laws and as far as I know there is virtually nothing you and I can do to stop them.
A friend of mine with one company that kept sending him requests t obuy stuff had an 800 number in their mail, so what he did was every time he got an email from them, he called that nummber and kept on calling it, telling them to stop wasting his time with junk mail. As the 800 number costs them for every call they pretty soon got the message.
We all need to hit these people with everything we have becuase these guys are often the source of malicious attempts to defraud you, wreck you computer and so on, so have no mercy on them.
Stuart
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