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Adryana_7 - Jun 28, 2006 - 10:02 am
If I can't navigate on the internet and everything is good on my internet company, how do I navigate on my modem on the computer... cause I know how to do it on PC, I just reset the modem, open the browser and type the Default Gateway and navigate on the modem and fill in customer information... if the browser doesn't work I do it on My Computer address bar or on DOS commands or on save mode with networking.... but all of that is usless on a MAC... can you help me out and tell me how to do it on this MAC... I have a MAC OS X 10.2
Thanks.
Thanks.
jackr - Jun 28, 2006 - 4:10 pm
It sounds as if (on Windows) you usually browse by typing the addresses into the Windows Explorer address bars (the tool that normally displays your local files), rather than launching Internet Explorer, the Microsoft web browser. Is that right?
On your Mac, you begin by launching a web browser. "Safari" comes with the operating system; you'll find it in the "Applications" folder. It has an address bar, and you should find that you can type the same sorts of things into it as you've been doing, and get the same sorts of results.
On your Mac, you begin by launching a web browser. "Safari" comes with the operating system; you'll find it in the "Applications" folder. It has an address bar, and you should find that you can type the same sorts of things into it as you've been doing, and get the same sorts of results.
Adryana_7 - Jun 29, 2006 - 9:24 am
But am I able to navigate into the modem settings with safari on MAC???? I really haven't been able to open does setting... nor the DOS commands.... what is the equivalent of DOS commands on MAC.... I thing all of it is already set up on the computer settings them self.... but were??? for example wewre do I ping or telnet or wincpfh???? can I access that from the MAC or DOS???? where???
jackr - Jun 29, 2006 - 11:41 am
The equivalent of "DOS commands" on a Mac is the Terminal application. You'll find it in the Utilities folder of the Applications folder.
There, you'll also find a tool called "Network Utility". This is a GUI for low-level network probes like "ping". So, take your choice: if you like to click buttons, use Network Utility. If you like to type, open Terminal.
Specifics:
* ping: you'll find ping in both those places. The syntax of the command line is slightly different from the DOS ping you're used to ... sorry about that, Unix invented ping, and a Mac is Unix, well before DOS changed the syntax. All ancient history, now.
* telnet: for telnet, you'll need to open a Terminal window. There are downloadable GUI front-ends for telnet on the net, but it sounds like you're a "type the command" kinda guy, so launch Terminal and type "telnet wherever"
* wincpfh: sorry, I'm not familiar with this command, nor does google tell me anything.
Unfortnately, I still don't understand that phrase you keep using, "navigate into the modem settings." My guess was that your modem provides a web server, and that you can access the settings for the device by accessing an URL, perhaps something like
http://192.168.1.1/
If that sounds about right, then yes, you should be able to access that just fine with Safari. I can't recall ever hearing of a modem that did this, but it's pretty much universal with gateways, routers, and firewalls, and there's no reason a modem couldn't do that as well.
Or, here's another thought: are you using a dial-up modem or a DSL modem? What sort of "settings" are you expecting to set? DSL modems sometimes need things like "PPoE", with user names and passwords; dial-up modems need things like telephone numbers, stop-bits, and parity. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong sort of modem ...
There, you'll also find a tool called "Network Utility". This is a GUI for low-level network probes like "ping". So, take your choice: if you like to click buttons, use Network Utility. If you like to type, open Terminal.
Specifics:
* ping: you'll find ping in both those places. The syntax of the command line is slightly different from the DOS ping you're used to ... sorry about that, Unix invented ping, and a Mac is Unix, well before DOS changed the syntax. All ancient history, now.
* telnet: for telnet, you'll need to open a Terminal window. There are downloadable GUI front-ends for telnet on the net, but it sounds like you're a "type the command" kinda guy, so launch Terminal and type "telnet wherever"
* wincpfh: sorry, I'm not familiar with this command, nor does google tell me anything.
Unfortnately, I still don't understand that phrase you keep using, "navigate into the modem settings." My guess was that your modem provides a web server, and that you can access the settings for the device by accessing an URL, perhaps something like
http://192.168.1.1/
If that sounds about right, then yes, you should be able to access that just fine with Safari. I can't recall ever hearing of a modem that did this, but it's pretty much universal with gateways, routers, and firewalls, and there's no reason a modem couldn't do that as well.
Or, here's another thought: are you using a dial-up modem or a DSL modem? What sort of "settings" are you expecting to set? DSL modems sometimes need things like "PPoE", with user names and passwords; dial-up modems need things like telephone numbers, stop-bits, and parity. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong sort of modem ...
Adryana_7 - Jun 29, 2006 - 12:04 pm
Thanks for all the info... it helps a lot!!!!!
Sorry about the command you didn't recognized... I misspelled... its winipcfg, its to TCP/IP settings and verify network adapters.
If you have any more equivalents to DOS commands regarding the internet I will really apreciate the information.... I know MAC it like the computer's ferrari and has everything on blind in.... but Im kindda lost, this is the fist time I have owned a MAC.
Sorry about the command you didn't recognized... I misspelled... its winipcfg, its to TCP/IP settings and verify network adapters.
If you have any more equivalents to DOS commands regarding the internet I will really apreciate the information.... I know MAC it like the computer's ferrari and has everything on blind in.... but Im kindda lost, this is the fist time I have owned a MAC.
jackr - Jun 29, 2006 - 1:45 pm
Some other interesting commands:
The number one most important command in all of unix:
man
This is the command-line help system. So "man ping" will tell you about "ping," and so on. Most man pages have a section down near the bottom called "See also," that mentions other, related, possibly interesting man pages. So, for example, if you type "man ping" and browse down to "See also," you'll be hinted you might also like:
netstat - this is a very general program, encompasing a lot of stuff you get with the DOS "ipconfig", and a lot of other stuff. You can spend hours trying out new command flags to netstat and reading through the results ;-) "netstat -in" is my favorite incantation; "netstat -rn" is handy sometimes, too.
ifconfig - mostely used to configure the networking "interfaces" (cards), which OS X mostly does automatically, and mostly gets right, so mostly ifconfig isn't used much, mostly. But it does have some info-reporting capabilities ... typing simply "ifconfig" will show you a burst of low-level detail.
traceroute - you may know the DOS command "tracert". Put the mising vowels back in, and you've got the original version, "traceroute"
nslookup, dig - these two programs do basically the same thing: tell you network info (mostly hostnames and addresses) about other computers, the whole wide Internet.
And one command, not specifically a networking thing, that you may need sooner or later:
sudo - assuming your account is marked as an "admin" account in the OS X Users panel of System Preferences, "sudo" lets you do admin things from the command line, like:
> sum /var/mail/jack
sum: /var/mail/jack: Permission denied
> sudo sum /var/mail/jack
Password: (type your password)
20321 3 /var/mail/jack
Use with extreme caution, of course.
The number one most important command in all of unix:
man
This is the command-line help system. So "man ping" will tell you about "ping," and so on. Most man pages have a section down near the bottom called "See also," that mentions other, related, possibly interesting man pages. So, for example, if you type "man ping" and browse down to "See also," you'll be hinted you might also like:
netstat - this is a very general program, encompasing a lot of stuff you get with the DOS "ipconfig", and a lot of other stuff. You can spend hours trying out new command flags to netstat and reading through the results ;-) "netstat -in" is my favorite incantation; "netstat -rn" is handy sometimes, too.
ifconfig - mostely used to configure the networking "interfaces" (cards), which OS X mostly does automatically, and mostly gets right, so mostly ifconfig isn't used much, mostly. But it does have some info-reporting capabilities ... typing simply "ifconfig" will show you a burst of low-level detail.
traceroute - you may know the DOS command "tracert". Put the mising vowels back in, and you've got the original version, "traceroute"
nslookup, dig - these two programs do basically the same thing: tell you network info (mostly hostnames and addresses) about other computers, the whole wide Internet.
And one command, not specifically a networking thing, that you may need sooner or later:
sudo - assuming your account is marked as an "admin" account in the OS X Users panel of System Preferences, "sudo" lets you do admin things from the command line, like:
> sum /var/mail/jack
sum: /var/mail/jack: Permission denied
> sudo sum /var/mail/jack
Password: (type your password)
20321 3 /var/mail/jack
Use with extreme caution, of course.
jackr - Jun 29, 2006 - 1:53 pm
One other thing: we fell into talking about "DOS-like" tools, that is command-line stuff. All this stuff is also available in GUI form; take your pick, whatever works for you. I tend to use the form that's most convenient at any moment: if I'm already typing into a Terminal, then I type "ping"; if I'm currently clicking things with my mouse, I launch a GUI tool. Whatever floats your boat! Useful network-related GUIs:
System Preferences: Network - most of the configuration, and a fair bit of the status info, for all types of networking. Browse around a bit, try all the drop lists, get comfy.
Network Utility - all those status and remote-info things, like "ping" and "traceroute"
Internet Connect - for configuring and monitoring dial-up, VPN, WiFi security, and such
System Preferences: Network - most of the configuration, and a fair bit of the status info, for all types of networking. Browse around a bit, try all the drop lists, get comfy.
Network Utility - all those status and remote-info things, like "ping" and "traceroute"
Internet Connect - for configuring and monitoring dial-up, VPN, WiFi security, and such
Adryana_7 - Jun 29, 2006 - 6:09 pm
Ohh and about the modem.... yes that is exacly what I meant... tahnks
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