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laloula - Jun 9, 2005 - 3:56 pm
I am an old Mac (pre OS8) to Win to MacOSX switcher. In Win, I could click a directory and create a new one that would appear directly below the selected one. In Mac, when I create a folder, it always goes to top level. This happens in the Finder and other applications. Any trick to making the folder go immediately to the target level?
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earthsaver - Jun 9, 2005 - 4:08 pm
I think I can help you however I need you to explain what you mean by "directly below the selected one." If you select a folder in column view in the Finder, and then create a new folder, it will go inside the selected folder. Regardless of whether you select an item in icon view in a Finder window, a new folder will appear in that folder.
The behavior is the same as in OS 8, except there you didn't have column view. How distant am I from your intentions?
- Ben
The behavior is the same as in OS 8, except there you didn't have column view. How distant am I from your intentions?
- Ben
laloula - Jun 10, 2005 - 8:26 am
Ben,
Thanks for your response. I am a little confused by your answer, but it did lead me to experiment with something. First, I never use icon view, if I can help it. I prefer List or Column view. So, if I am in List view, and I select a folder that's nested 4 levels down in the right pane, then select File>New Folder, the folder ends up back at the top level of that pane. If I go to Column view and navigate to that 4th level folder (that's also 4 panes to the right) then the folder ends up where I want it. Apparently, the folder goes to the top level of the pane you are in.
This is clearly different than Win, which has no column view, and relies on Details view (same as list view on Mac). But in Win, I could add the folder to the 4th level folder in Details view.
I also have this issue with Entourage, which really annoys me, since it is a Microsoft app.
I keep thinking there must be a shortcut or something to make adding a folder to the specific place you want it in any view of any app, but maybe not. Maybe someone who knows how to hack around at the scriipt level could figure it out. Oh well.
Laura
Thanks for your response. I am a little confused by your answer, but it did lead me to experiment with something. First, I never use icon view, if I can help it. I prefer List or Column view. So, if I am in List view, and I select a folder that's nested 4 levels down in the right pane, then select File>New Folder, the folder ends up back at the top level of that pane. If I go to Column view and navigate to that 4th level folder (that's also 4 panes to the right) then the folder ends up where I want it. Apparently, the folder goes to the top level of the pane you are in.
This is clearly different than Win, which has no column view, and relies on Details view (same as list view on Mac). But in Win, I could add the folder to the 4th level folder in Details view.
I also have this issue with Entourage, which really annoys me, since it is a Microsoft app.
I keep thinking there must be a shortcut or something to make adding a folder to the specific place you want it in any view of any app, but maybe not. Maybe someone who knows how to hack around at the scriipt level could figure it out. Oh well.
Laura
earthsaver - Jun 10, 2005 - 8:36 am
Truth: In List view, the folder shown in the title bar is the one that will receive a newly created folder. To create a new folder inside one of its children, open that folder first; then create the folder.
Note about Entourage: Just because it's a Microsoft app doesn't mean it's designed to function like Windows. It was developed by different people (in the Mac Business Unit of MS), who developed applications for Mac long before Windows.
Mail doesn't have a problem with creating a new folder as a child of a particular other folder. Have you tried using it instead?
- Ben
Note about Entourage: Just because it's a Microsoft app doesn't mean it's designed to function like Windows. It was developed by different people (in the Mac Business Unit of MS), who developed applications for Mac long before Windows.
Mail doesn't have a problem with creating a new folder as a child of a particular other folder. Have you tried using it instead?
- Ben
laloula - Jun 10, 2005 - 9:12 am
Well, I haven't tried Mail. I bought office 2004 cause i wanted to be able to be as cross-compatible as possible, and just didn't know much about the new mac office apps. i may regret that decision 
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I like the project center aspect of the office suite, although it is not as transparently usable as one would hope.
This switching thing is quite time-consuming, but part of the reason i switch to the mac is the quality of the hardware and display (I have a powerbook). I haven't seen a PC laptop that can compare.
Laura
!I like the project center aspect of the office suite, although it is not as transparently usable as one would hope.
This switching thing is quite time-consuming, but part of the reason i switch to the mac is the quality of the hardware and display (I have a powerbook). I haven't seen a PC laptop that can compare.
Laura
earthsaver - Jun 10, 2005 - 9:45 am
I'd be happy to answer your questions about Apple's applications. I think they, as applications and as services that share data among each other, work pretty well together.
There's nothing wrong with using Word or Excel for maximum compatibility. Excel is among the best spreadsheets I know. Word could be simpler, which is why for most typing I used TextEdit, and I bought Pages for more complex formatting.
You don't have to regret your decision to use Entourage, though. You can pretty easily transfer your email and calendars to Mail and iCal, respectively, for example.
I agree there's a certain learning curve when switching from Windows to Mac. I hope it's a positive experience though and that your productivity is improving in comparison.
- Ben
There's nothing wrong with using Word or Excel for maximum compatibility. Excel is among the best spreadsheets I know. Word could be simpler, which is why for most typing I used TextEdit, and I bought Pages for more complex formatting.
You don't have to regret your decision to use Entourage, though. You can pretty easily transfer your email and calendars to Mail and iCal, respectively, for example.
I agree there's a certain learning curve when switching from Windows to Mac. I hope it's a positive experience though and that your productivity is improving in comparison.
- Ben
laloula - Jun 10, 2005 - 12:05 pm
Thanks, Ben. Glad I discovered this forum.
Laura
Laura
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