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LarBoBar - Jul 31, 2005 - 2:37 am

I just installed Tiger last night and my computer is running so slowly. I would like to go back to 10.3. I do not need the cool bells and whistles in 10.4, I'd rather have the speed. I am on a Mac mini, 1.42 GHz, with 1 GB or memory. Do I just reinstall 10.3? Or do I somehow uninstall 10.4 to get rid of the 10.4 files? I have a lot of Mac experience but haven't stepped backward with the OS before. Thanks a mil!

philippe99 - Jul 31, 2005 - 6:16 am

Laurel, welcome to macosx.com

(1) how do you update to Tiger: simple update or Archive&Install ?

(2) Do you have repair permissions (through DiskUtility) after the update ?

Regards
Philippe

philippe99 - Jul 31, 2005 - 6:25 am

I also think to the Erase&Install can also be an option, provided you backup all your important files and be ready to reinstall 3rd party applications (serials, settings,..)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301270
Philippe

LarBoBar - Jul 31, 2005 - 12:21 pm

OS 10.3 came on my new Mac mini system. I upgraded with the 10.4 upgrade disk that came with my system.

I've never done an Archive & Install and am not sure what that is. Is that when the current OS is put into a Previous System folder when the new one is installed?

When I go into info of the Disk Utility, the Ownership and Permissions are all grayed out. Is that where I should look for repair permissions?

It sounds like Erase & Install isn't what I want to do, I'm hoping there's a simple way to get back to 10.3.

philippe99 - Jul 31, 2005 - 12:52 pm

(1) about repair permissions
(must be admin)
Launch Applications/Utilities/DiskUtility
On the left pane, select the drive
On the right, select the SOS tab
Then click on repair disk and let the process running
Then click on repair permissions and let run; don not worry about messages like " new permissions...."
Quit DiskUtility
Shutdown and reboot

(2) About Archive&Install
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120

(3) personnaly, I do not like reverting the lower OS without cleaning and wiping all. That's why , through Archive&Install, I never downgrade an OS


But first try the repair permissions avtion
Regards
Philippe

LarBoBar - Aug 3, 2005 - 3:27 pm

Okay, Philippe,

I waited a couple of days to try your suggestions because I was afraid I'd make things worse! I repaired the disk and permissions, although there was no SOS tab, I think you may have meant the First Aid tab.

Doing that seemed to help a little but the system is still slow.

Should I do the Archive & Install next? Is that what "cleaning and wiping" is?

What do you mean by "That's why , through Archive&Install, I never downgrade an OS" ? Does that mean you never downgrade using Archive & Install?

Thanks for your continued, valuable help!

Laurel

philippe99 - Aug 3, 2005 - 4:03 pm

Archive&Install will install a new System, but if you select "Preserve Users", preserves your Home directory and Network settings.
In this cse, if, in the system before Archive&Install, you have installed updated drivers for an USB modem or related, I fear (I fear, I never try it) that this update driver can cause troubles when used back in an older system after the Archive&Install.
Well, for me, the Apple "preserved settings" is not cleared: preserve only my ISP login and other 'small' thing like that ???
Or keep back all my modem drivers, .. ????

That's why, if I have to downgrade, I prefer to backup all my documents and reinstall a fresh "old" system on a wiped disk.
Of course, I have to tak time to re-install all my applications (Itunes library, licenses for Office, ...) but (it is my personal opinion) this appear more secure to my eyes

However, of course, backup, backup, backup before playing this kind of 'game' ;-)

Yes, try the Archive&Install following the article I give you above.
And if, after some tests, it does not work well, you'll do a fresh clean install.

Regards
Philippe

LarBoBar - Aug 4, 2005 - 2:58 am

So, before I jump in, are you saying these are my steps?
1 - Back up everything
2 - Archive & Install Tiger 10.4

Is Archive & Install something I will see when I pop in my 10.4 upgrade disk?

Have other people had any luck speeding up 10.4 doing this that you know of?

What exactly is a fresh clean install?

Thanks again, Laurel

philippe99 - Aug 4, 2005 - 7:51 am

In the link I mentionned above, just read the procedure; when you'll arrive to the Options, you'll see the Archive&Install option
I'm not sure at all this menu appear on an upgrade 10.4 disc. But well in the Panther discs. I think you want to go back to Panther Right ?

I already did it from an officiel Panther disc I bought at AppleStore. My friend had to do this because, after jumping form 10.3.0 to 10.3.8, he discovered that one of his favourite program (not followed longer by the company which created it) not work on 10.3.8. So he came back to 10.3.0 doing this.

Fresh clean install is install on a wiped disk with out nothing: a install from scratch


But before doing this, could we try to boost Tiger (if we can) by other ways.

Could you try to download Onyx
http://www.titanium.free.fr/english.html

and run the maintenance scripts and clean the caches.

Philippe

LarBoBar - Aug 5, 2005 - 3:55 pm

Philippe,

I would like to try to get Tiger to work. I checked out the download link and it says it works on 10.4.2 minimum. When I look at About This Mac it says I'm running 10.4. Can I get an upgrade download somewhere?

Thanks for all your trouble!

Laurel

philippe99 - Aug 6, 2005 - 4:00 am

Yes, apply the 10.4.2 combo from here
http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...1042combo.html
Philippe
(I jump from 10.4.0 to 10.4.2 with this combo)

LarBoBar - Aug 9, 2005 - 1:24 pm

Okay, I updated to 10.4.2 from your link, then downloaded Onyx and ran the mainentance and the cleaning. No change.

Has anyone else had any luck speeding Tiger up? Are there any other options for Tiger? If not, how do I "wipe" the hard disk and install 10.3 again from scratch.

I'm disappointed that Apple made an upgrade so much slower.

Laurel

philippe99 - Aug 10, 2005 - 3:40 am

Laurel,
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/Dumm...e/id-2387.html

Boot from the Panther CD Install disc 1; select the target drive ; then the "Erase & Install" option
Philippe

LarBoBar - Aug 13, 2005 - 7:04 pm

Thanks, Philippe,

I think I'll do that--back everything up (oh joy), then "Erase & Install" 10.3. Thanks so much for your help!

I will definitely visit this site before making any more changes on my computer!

Laurel

philippe99 - Aug 14, 2005 - 4:00 am

Laurel, good luck for you backing-up process; I know it is a heavy job but check everything you back up: it is important to have a valid image of your documents,...

Do not hesitate to call me [philippe99 (at) macosx (dot) com] other thech throug macosx.com back if you face problems in the install process.

Thank you for using macosx.com
Philippe