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Question Profile
DATESep 7, 2007
TICKET#334627
STATUSClosed
SUBJECTiChat
CATComputers, Operating Systems, Applications or Connected Devices
TYPESoftware Applications
DESCInternet Related Utilities
DESC
PLATFORMApple Macintosh (Intel)
MODELApple MacBook Pro
PROC2GHz
RAM1GB
DRIVE160GB
NAMEadrian
USERNAMEags
TECHNICALLittle Experience
ISSUEStumped
Question Details
TICKET ARCHIVE -> iChat
ags - Sep 7, 2007 - 2:21 pm
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Hi
Iam wits end to resolve this on my Macbook running OSX ver 10.4.10 with IgB memory. Ichat keeps coming up with error 21 and I have offloaded widgets and cache stuff but still have the problem HELP!!
regards Adrian

Date/Time: 2007-09-07 18:47:06.208 +0100
OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R2218)
Report Version: 4

iChat Connection Log:
AVChat started with ID 4148140862.
adrianslegg@mac.com3: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateWaiting.
0x558cc0: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateInvited.
0x558cc0: State change from AVChatStateInvited to AVChatStateConnecting.
adrianslegg@mac.com3: State change from AVChatStateWaiting to AVChatStateConnecting.
0x558cc0: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateConnected.
adrianslegg@mac.com3: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateConnected.
adrianslegg@mac.com3: State change from AVChatStateConnected to AVChatStateEnded.
Chat ended with error -21
0x558cc0: State change from AVChatStateConnected to AVChatStateEnded.
Chat ended with error -21

Video Conference Error Report:
@SIP/Transport.c:121 type=4 (00000000/0)
[SIP/2.0 200 OK
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP m.0:63976;branch=z9hG4bK4e28962f23f9a3fb
To: "u0" ;tag=2069001372
From: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 3 NOTIFY
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Length: 0
]
[]
@:0 type=4 (00000000/2)
[VC_RECEIVE_ERROR]
[23]
@:0 type=4 (00000000/2)
[VC_TRANSMIT_ERROR]
[22]
@SIP/Transport.c:121 type=4 (00000000/0)
[SIP/2.0 200 OK
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP m.0:63976;branch=z9hG4bK24e7b29d4ae0a859
To: "u0" ;tag=2069001372
From: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 2 NOTIFY
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Length: 0
]
[]
@SIP/Transport.c:121 type=4 (00000000/0)
[SUBSCRIBE sip:user@172.17.186.236 SIP/2.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP u0en0.0:5061;branch=z9hG4bK3a7c0ac63a8bcf95
Max-Forwards: 70
To: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
From: "u0" ;tag=2069001372
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 1 SUBSCRIBE
Contact:
Event: conference
Expires: 3600
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Length: 0
]
[]
@SIP/Transport.c:121 type=4 (00000000/0)
[SIP/2.0 200 OK
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP m.0:63976;branch=z9hG4bK55d554933d385970
To: "u0" ;tag=2069001372
From: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 1 INVITE
Contact:
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 417
]
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s=adrianslegg@mac.com3
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b=AS:2147483647
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a=hwi:1056:2:2000
a=bandwidthDetection:YES
a=iChatEncryption:NO
m=audio 16386 RTP/AVP 12
a=rtcp:16387
a=rtpID:-846541610
m=video 16384 RTP/AVP 126
a=rtcp:16385
a=rtpmap:126 X-H264
a=RTCP:AUDIO 16387 VIDEO 16385
a=fmtp:126 imagesize 0 rules 20:160:120:160:120
a=framerate:20
a=rtpID:-948625693
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@SIP/Transport.c:121 type=4 (00000000/0)
[SIP/2.0 180 Ringing
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP m.0:63976;branch=z9hG4bK55d554933d385970
To: "u0" ;tag=2069001372
From: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 1 INVITE
Contact:
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Length: 0
]
[]
@SIP/Transport.c:121 type=4 (00000000/0)
[SIP/2.0 100 Trying
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP m.0:63976;branch=z9hG4bK55d554933d385970
To: "u0"
From: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 1 INVITE
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Length: 0
]
[]


Video Conference Support Report:
@:0 type=2 (00000000/2)
[VC_USE_INTERNAL_ISIGHT]
[25]
@SIP/Transport.c:1218 type=1 (00000000/0)
[NOTIFY sip:user@u0en0.0:5061 SIP/2.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP m.0:63976;branch=z9hG4bK4e28962f23f9a3fb
Max-Forwards: 70
To: "u0" ;tag=2069001372
From: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 3 NOTIFY
Contact: ;isfocus
Event: conference
Subscription-State: terminated;reason=noresource
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Length: 0

]
[]
@:0 type=2 (00000000/2)
[VC_USE_EXTERNAL_MIC]
[30]
@:0 type=2 (00000000/2)
[VC_USE_INTERNAL_ISIGHT]
[25]
@SIP/Transport.c:1218 type=1 (00000000/0)
[NOTIFY sip:user@u0en0.0:5061 SIP/2.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP m.0:63976;branch=z9hG4bK24e7b29d4ae0a859
Max-Forwards: 70
To: "u0" ;tag=2069001372
From: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 2 NOTIFY
Contact: ;isfocus
Event: conference
Subscription-State: active;expires=3600
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Type: application/conference-info+xml
Content-Length: 216


ci
co

]
[]
@SIP/Transport.c:1218 type=1 (00000000/0)
[SIP/2.0 200 OK
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP u0en0.0:5061;branch=z9hG4bK3a7c0ac63a8bcf95
To: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
From: "u0" ;tag=2069001372
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 1 SUBSCRIBE
Contact: ;isfocus
Expires: 3600
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Length: 0

]
[]
@SIP/Transport.c:1218 type=1 (00000000/0)
[ACK sip:user@u0en0.0:5061 SIP/2.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP m.0:63976;branch=z9hG4bK75c9dab83ee72868
Max-Forwards: 70
To: "u0" ;tag=2069001372
From: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 1 ACK
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Length: 0

]
[]
@SIP/Transport.c:1218 type=1 (00000000/0)
[INVITE sip:user@u0en0.0:5061 SIP/2.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP m.0:63976;branch=z9hG4bK55d554933d385970
Max-Forwards: 70
To: "u0"
From: "adrianslegg@mac.com3" ;tag=141661236
Call-ID: 563556f0-5d6a-11dc-8f52-a1da0f4313c4@lip
CSeq: 1 INVITE
Contact: ;isfocus
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 512

v=0
o=adrian1 0 0 IN IP4 m.0
s=adrianslegg@mac.com3
c=IN IP4 m.0
b=AS:2147483647
t=0 0
a=hwi:34:2:2000
a=bandwidthDetection:YES
a=iChatEncryption:NO
m=audio 63982 RTP/AVP 12 3 0
a=rtpmap:3 GSM/8000
a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000
a=rtpID:-65418969
m=video 63980 RTP/AVP 126 34
a=rtpmap:126 X-H264/90000
a=rtpmap:34 H263/90000
a=fmtp:34 imagesize 1 rules 30:352:288
a=framerate:30
a=RTCP:AUDIO 63983 VIDEO 63981
a=pogo
a=fmtp:126 imagesize 0 rules 30:160:120:160:120
a=rtpID:-196307304
]
[]
@:0 type=2 (00000000/22)
[VC_VIDEO_OUTGOING_ATTEMPT]
[4]


Video Conference User Report:


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Serenak - Sep 9, 2007 - 6:44 pm
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Thanks for using macosx.com

I hope to be able to help you

Errr... thanks for the "somewhat lengthy" post..

OK my first question is have you opened the ports required? (unlike most other services the Mac doesn't seem to "just do" this one...)

This page seems to be the definitive text on iChat http://www.ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/page3.html
what that man doesn't know about iChat seems to be not worth caring about...

But to summarise the page for you go to the firewall in Sharing Pane of System Prefs... create a new service and call it iChat or similar then follow this advice:

What to add to Change things for iChat AV

If you need to have your Mac's Firewall on, you will need to open the complete range of ports, as listed here:-
5060, 5190, 5297, 5298, 5353, 5678, 16384-16403 For just iChat Text, file sending and A/V chats (Can be copied and pasted into a "New" setting in the Firewall)

Please note the commas and spaces are important in the Mac Firewall.

This will probably fix it - it is the commonest cause of difficulty.

If not please come back to me and we will investigate more esoteric options


ags - Sep 10, 2007 - 8:22 am
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Hi Serenak
Tried that and still same error -21. It seems to try with video pane showing me and with the 'connecting' symbol but then throws up the communication fault.
I am using the appletest site and as I said before, with same settings, my home IMac is working fine. The MacBook shows the same fault on the home network and in several different Hotspot areas. Surfing the net, it seems error 21 is about the processor capacity so I offloaded my widgets and cleared cache to ensure maximum processor speed. Just running out of ideas!
regards Adrian
Serenak - Sep 10, 2007 - 11:54 am
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Hello Adrian

Rats - that was my best strategem - truth is I don't really know buckets about iChat, I rarely us it myself - though I learned how to get it running in most cases to teach a beginners' class at my local MUG...

http://www.ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/page4a.html might help (or just rummage the whole site) - that man seems to have far too much time to spend on iChat

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....sageID=5250659
basically details the problem as you describe - it has some suggestions but no answer - you might find some thing you haven't already done...

Can you get AV over Skype or Yahoo Beta? or even aMSN? if you can then the fault is with iChat if you can't then you may need to investigate network or system issues...

I don't know that I can help you directly much more than that... if you wish I can throw the question back into the ring for another Tech to assist
ags - Sep 10, 2007 - 5:17 pm
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Hi Serenak, Skype works well but is not quite as clear as Ichat when it works! Thanks for your help but it might provide another strategy if you throw the problem back in the ring. Many thanks anyway.
Regards Adrian
Serenak - Sep 10, 2007 - 6:24 pm
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Yes I have noticed that iChat does have the benefit of far superior sound over most other options... I don't know how Apple do that but they sure do.

All I could find out since your last mail is that error 21 is "nominally" could not get service from camera... and appears to be more related to a bandwidth choke at the point of connection than the processor or RAM per se...

I would be inclined to point the finger at firewalls and NAT routers except you say the other Macs do not have a problem...

Sorry I couldn't help more Adrian...

I will throw the query back open as I send you this message.
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