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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 1, 2005 - 12:16 pm

If you Boot off the OS CD by holding the C key down. and after the Installer window appears, go up to the Installer Menu to Disk Utility and use that to Repair Disk....will I lose everything on my computer or will it just fix my slow start-up. Because that's my problem.

I have already tried the following.

1 - Go to your Startup PreferencePane in the System Preferences and choose your drive to boot from. Sometimes this can eliminate startup times.

2 - Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder and use that to Repair Permissions.


3 - A large amount of fonts, or a bad font can cause slow startups also.


Now I want to try the Repair Disk but am worried about losing Data or programs I have installed.

Anyone know?

THANKS, Mikel S. Rosenthal

bobw - Jul 1, 2005 - 12:18 pm

Hi Mikel

No, you won't lose anything, it will just repair any problems. If it does find and fix any problems, run it again until it says no problems found.
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 1, 2005 - 12:19 pm

Thanks Bob...You set my worries at ease...I have looked over your site..I'm gonna Recommend it to EVERYONE i know...you guys are great!

Sincerely, Mikel S. Rosenthal.

Dillinjabreakz - Jul 1, 2005 - 2:09 pm

Well...I have tried all of these things...Still probably takes about 10 minutes to restart...sucks when your in a hurry.

Any other ideas?

This is what I have tried:

1 - Go to your Startup PreferencePane in the System Preferences and choose your drive to boot from. Sometimes this can eliminate startup times.

2 - Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder and use that to Repair Permissions.

3 - Boot off the OS CD by holding the C key down. After the Installer Window appears, go up to the Installer Menu to Disk Utility and use that to Repair Disk. Restart after that.

4 - A large amount of fonts, or a bad font can cause slow startups also.

Any help would be great
Sincerely, Mikel Rosenthal

bobw - Jul 1, 2005 - 3:46 pm

Mikel

Have you added any fonts?

Has this machine ever been connected to a Network?

What model Mac is this?
What version of OS X is installed?
How much memory is installed?
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 1, 2005 - 4:07 pm

I'm home now and the computer is at work.
This is what i remember.

It's been like this sense i started working on it.
Could be a font..was wondering if there was some
utility that would check corrupt fonts.
Anything you know of? Easy way to weed out the bad?

The machine is connected to our office network.

It's a Power Mac G4
1.25Ghz
OSX 10.3.7 i think
Almost 2 gigs of memory in it.

I disabled all but the system fonts in Font Book to see if that might be an issue...I bet you have to remove them from the folder all together to find out. Not sure if you have any more info on that. I would guess Network or Font.

Any guidance would be well taken as I am running out of options.

Thanks,
Mikel Rosenthal

bobw - Jul 1, 2005 - 4:22 pm

Mikel

If a network volume is set to mount at startup, this will cause a slow startup.

I would completely disable FontBook and see if that makes a difference. I've seen reports of problems with it.

FontDoctor is a program you can use to check fonts;

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/13339
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 1, 2005 - 5:00 pm

Awsome! I will try that right when im back in the office.
You have helped me quite a bit

I'll let you know how it turns out on Monday.
Thanks Bob,
Mikel Rosenthal

bobw - Jul 2, 2005 - 7:28 am

Ps - os x is built to run 24/7.
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 8:51 am

I'm taking out all the fonts that FontDoctor told me were bad...I don't want to buy the program so I'm just doing them one at a time.

How would I disable all of Font Book at once?
Just curious.

Thanks,
Mikel Rosenthal

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 9:16 am

Mikel

From the Help Menu;

Double-click Font Book in the Finder, or choose Manage Fonts from the Action pop-up menu in the lower-left corner of the Font panel.
Select the fonts you want to turn off in the Font column.
Select an entire collection in the Collection column, or select individual fonts in the Font column.

Choose Edit > Disable Fonts or Edit > Disable Font Collections.
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 9:58 am

Sorry to keep bothering you, i really do appreciate your help.
Here is where I'm at now.

1. I disabled Font Book and all the fonts (Even removed the ones that FontDoctor said were messed up. I put them in a folder, a few I couldn't find but the main ones it said there were problems with I took out.

2. Unplugged from the Network and Restarted a few times.

Still having the slow start up..usually takes over 10 minutes.
It's after the start up screen where it loads the network, etc.

It's when the wallpaper is up, and the Rainbow pinwheel is spinning. It just spins and spins for about 10 to 12 minutes before it will get to the normal desktop.

If you don't think there is anything i could do then thats ok...I still appreciate your help, But if you have any last suggestions that would be great.

Sincerely,
Mikel Rosenthal

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 10:07 am

Mikel

Check your Startup Items in the Accounts PreferencePane and see what's in there set to start at login.

Look in the Startup Items folders to see whats in there;

Library>Startup Items


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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 11:05 am

Here is what I have under Library > Startupitems

2 folders

Folder 1. AdobeVersionCueCS2 > Inside Folder A. AdobeVersionCueCS2 B. StartupParameters.plist C. VersionCueCS2Daemon

Folder 2. Tablet > Inside Folder A. StartupParameter.plist B. Tablet C. TabletDriver D. TabletDriverRelauncher.

I don't use AdobeVersioniCueCS2 or Tablet...should i just move those out of the start up?

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 11:10 am

Mikel

I would move both those folders out of the Startup items and see if it helps.
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 11:26 am

Nope. Still takes about 10 to 12 minutes even after taking those out of Library > StartupItems

BUT:

Under
System > Library > Startupitems

There is a whole bunch of stuff listed.

Accounting
AMD
Apache
APpleShare
AppServices
AuthServer
BIND
ConfigServer
CoreGraphics
CrashReporter
Cron
DirectoryServices
Disks
IPServices
KernelEventAgent
LDAP
LoginWindow
mDNSResponder
NetInfo
Network
NetworkExtensions
NetworkTime
NFS
NIS
Portmap
Postfix
Printing Services
RemoteDesktopAgent
SecurityServer
SNMP
SystemLog
SystemTuning


Under System Folder > Startup Items

Airport Setup Assistant



I don't know if that helps at all.
These are outside of Library but they might make sense to you.

If we are out of options I understand.
Thanks for the help.
Mikel Rosenthal

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 11:35 am

Mikel

Don't move anything out of this folder;

System > Library > Startupitems
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If you have a Servers folder on the drive, remove anything in it.

Then look in this folder;

user>library>Recent Servers

Move everything in there out to a new folder on the Desktop.

Use the Go Menu to Connect to Server - remove any servers listed there.

Restart and see if it's any better.
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 12:40 pm

I think i did all the correctly.

I think it starts up within 5 to 6 minutes on just that screen...So i think it might be better Even that is better from what I did have...it was about double that..still takes a while but not as long.

You think I should just leave it or anything else i should try.

Your AWSOME btw.
thank,
Mikel Rosethal

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 1:07 pm

Mikel

We're making progress

Now, trash these Preference files;

com.apple.LaunchServices.plist

com.apple.loginwindow.plist

Check the mac.com PreferencePane if you have a mac.com account, make sure it's not set to sync automatically.

Anything else yopu may have that syncs could slow startup depending on what it is.
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 1:31 pm

There is quite a few things in there.
Should i throw out anything with the extention .plist?

Also have some folders like

Adobe Systems
CanoScan LiDE 500F
DirectoryService
DRM
Network
SystemConfiguration

there are files in there too.
Are most things in here safe to throw away?

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 1:39 pm

Mikel

Just trash these two files;

com.apple.LaunchServices.plist

com.apple.loginwindow.plist

located here;

user>library>preferences

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These are in Library>Preferences; (leave alone)

Adobe Systems
CanoScan LiDE 500F
DirectoryService
DRM
Network
SystemConfiguration

=================================

I would check any applications from Adobe and in the preferences, see if any are set to check for updates automatically.
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 2:06 pm

I got rid of:

com.apple.LaunchServices.plist

com.apple.loginwindow.plist

as well as:

com.apple.SoftwareUpdate.plist

Now it just makes it so I have to log on but still takes a long time till I get to the desktop. I'm not sure what other places to look.

Sorry for being a pest
If we are out of options i totally understand.

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 2:26 pm

Mikel

Go back to the Startup Disk PreferencePane and re-choose the startup disk, since all this has been done, may help.

My only other suggestion would be to download and install the 10.3.9 Combo Update;

http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...pdate1039.html
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 3:01 pm

For some reason every time I try to install the update it says:

This is a pop up window when its getting ready to install.

Warning:

The Following disk images failed to mount

Image Reason
MacOSXUpdateCo invalid checksum

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 3:07 pm

Mikel

Trash that download and download it again. Somehow the download is corrupt. This sometimes happens.


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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 3:09 pm

GUESS WHAT BOBBY MY FRIEND!

IT WORKS! Takes about 15 to 20 seconds.

It could have been the Selecting of the Startup again.
I don't know why the second time it would but that may be the reason.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!

One quick last thing..is there a way to make it auto log into my account like it used to...It has me log in now every time and it used to just log directly into mine..im the only one using this computer....WOW...
Your Truely Awsome....15 to 20 Seconds BOB! thats Awsome!

Mikel Rosenthal

Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 3:10 pm

Should I still do that update? I doubt it would hurt because whatever the Issue is is NOW FIXED! thanks to you!

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 3:11 pm

Mikel

Great

For auto login, go to the Accounts PreferencePane and select your login options for your account.
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Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 3:14 pm

I keep trying to do the download..before it took about 12 minutes...now it acts like its downloading it in about 15 seconds even after i went and threw the old in the trash and everything..like its looking at the old download..still gives that same error.

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 3:20 pm

Mikel

If everything's ok, no need to do the update.

But, you can also try usng Software Update (in Preferences) to update.
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Bobw - Macosx.com Tech Support

Dillinjabreakz - Jul 5, 2005 - 3:23 pm

Your Amazing BOB!

Every time it restarts its done in about 12 seconds flat.

Do you guys have some place I can send a letter to praise you?
I mean..this really is a WONDERFUL service. Most of the time you can't get anyone to help you period, and YOU provide this Wondeful Free service...It just blows my mind and I can't thank you enough!

Sincerely,
Mikel Rosenthal

bobw - Jul 5, 2005 - 3:27 pm

I'm glad I was of some help.

On our Forums, you can post any praise you like, or add to this thread;

http://www.macosx.com/forums/showthr...90#post1127790

Thanks
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