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| DATE | Nov 10, 2007 |
| TICKET | #334956 |
| STATUS | Closed |
| SUBJECT | Mac OS 10.5 Switch |
| CAT | Computers, Operating Systems, Applications or Connected Devices |
| TYPE | Operating System Features, Bugs and Problems |
| DESC | Apple |
| DESC | 10.4.X (Tiger) |
| PLATFORM | Apple Macintosh (PowerPC G3,G4,G5) |
| MODEL | iMac G5 |
| PROC | 1. 8 gHz |
| RAM | 512 MB |
| DRIVE | 160 GB |
| NAME | Sam |
| USERNAME | SGockel007 |
| TECHNICAL | Lots of Experience |
| ISSUE | Just Started Looking |
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TICKET ARCHIVE -> Mac OS 10.5 Switch
SGockel007 - Nov 10, 2007 - 2:13 am
Hello, I am sure many people have asked this question. Is the switch to Leopard really necessary? I have a PPC iMac G5. 512 MB RAM and a 1.8 gHz processor. I am happy with tiger but I am wonder if the switch to leopard would be a good idea. I went into the apple store today to check it out, there are a few things I don't like very much. One is the new dock, if I do install 10.5, is there a program that can give me my "old" 10.4 dock back in 10.5? Thanks. - Sam
Serenak - Nov 10, 2007 - 8:04 am
Hello Sam
thanks for coming to macosx.com and I will try to help you as best I can.
Upgrade time is always a bit worrying isn't it... should I do it? is it worth it? will everything work properly afterwards? will I need to replace other stuff too?
I will tell you how it is for me and see what you think about it.
I have a G5DP tower at work 2Gb RAM and running Tiger 10.4.10 currently I am sticking with that (more on why in a minute)
At home I have a C2D iMac and MacBook - I have upgraded both to Leopard 10.5
Firstly you say you are happy with Tiger - right there is a good enough reason to hold off updating for a while.
Second you have a G5 iMac with 512Mb of RAM which is the minimum for Leopard btw, you would need to add RAM to see the Leopard "leaping" as it were.
Third you can use TigerDock http://www.riotgames.se/riotgames-se/tigerdock.html if you don't like the new one (though the one it gives you is not the old one, but not a 3D glass one). You can remove the translucent menubar with OpaqueMenu http://www.eternalstorms.at/utilitie...bar/index.html (allegedly - it didn't work for me) I just made a desktop picture with 21 pixels of white at the top...
Fourth Leopard is new, not everything is updated to run right on it yet... and some stuff will need paid upgrades, and some stuff that is older will probably never get updates (then again I have some free toys from lord knows when that work perfectly under Leopard still).
The big thing is are you happy with your Mac right now? If you are then why change? Eventually stuff will arrive that requires Leopard - when it does then you may need to consider changing. Waiting will not hurt if you are not burning up with the Leopard fever, and probably when you do consider upgrading it will be 10.5.3 or something and some of the bugs will be flattened
From what you say you are not in a desperate hurry - spend the cash on a RAM upgrade for your iMac and feel the improvements that will bring
and save upgrading to Leopard for later.
Short answer... Leopard is nice, but it is not essential yet...
thanks for coming to macosx.com and I will try to help you as best I can.
Upgrade time is always a bit worrying isn't it... should I do it? is it worth it? will everything work properly afterwards? will I need to replace other stuff too?
I will tell you how it is for me and see what you think about it.
I have a G5DP tower at work 2Gb RAM and running Tiger 10.4.10 currently I am sticking with that (more on why in a minute)
At home I have a C2D iMac and MacBook - I have upgraded both to Leopard 10.5
Firstly you say you are happy with Tiger - right there is a good enough reason to hold off updating for a while.
Second you have a G5 iMac with 512Mb of RAM which is the minimum for Leopard btw, you would need to add RAM to see the Leopard "leaping" as it were.
Third you can use TigerDock http://www.riotgames.se/riotgames-se/tigerdock.html if you don't like the new one (though the one it gives you is not the old one, but not a 3D glass one). You can remove the translucent menubar with OpaqueMenu http://www.eternalstorms.at/utilitie...bar/index.html (allegedly - it didn't work for me) I just made a desktop picture with 21 pixels of white at the top...
Fourth Leopard is new, not everything is updated to run right on it yet... and some stuff will need paid upgrades, and some stuff that is older will probably never get updates (then again I have some free toys from lord knows when that work perfectly under Leopard still).
The big thing is are you happy with your Mac right now? If you are then why change? Eventually stuff will arrive that requires Leopard - when it does then you may need to consider changing. Waiting will not hurt if you are not burning up with the Leopard fever, and probably when you do consider upgrading it will be 10.5.3 or something and some of the bugs will be flattened
From what you say you are not in a desperate hurry - spend the cash on a RAM upgrade for your iMac and feel the improvements that will bring
and save upgrading to Leopard for later.Short answer... Leopard is nice, but it is not essential yet...
SGockel007 - Nov 10, 2007 - 11:25 pm
Ok thanks. Let's say I do buy more RAM. My computer can support up to 1 or 2 GB? How much is RAM these days? How much is enough? Let's say I buy RAM, install leopard, and run the dock program. Can I uninstall it if I have to for some reason? Thanks. - Sam
Serenak - Nov 11, 2007 - 10:07 am
Hello again Sam
According to MacTracker the actual limit on RAM for your Mac is 2Gb as 2 x 184pin PC3200 (400MHz) DDR SDRAM.
You have 512Mb at the moment - probably as 2 x 256Mb DIMMs which you would have to remove and replace with either 2 x 512Mbs or 2 x 1Gbs. About this Mac/More Information will tell you what RAM is installed in the iMac and in what slots.
As to cost I couldn't say exactly but in relative terms not much - check out a reputable reseller for prices on Crucial or Kingston. RAM is pretty cheap these days.
How much is enough? Well depending on what you do - 1Gb is adequate, 2Gb is better as a "subjective guide" playing WoW on 512Mb is bearable - 760 passable and 1Gb good. More RAM is always better
OK as to the Dock programme - all it actually does is tweak a couple of underlying parameters. Like all good items of its kind you can simply click a button and return the Dock to its "official" state.
Hope that helps you
According to MacTracker the actual limit on RAM for your Mac is 2Gb as 2 x 184pin PC3200 (400MHz) DDR SDRAM.
You have 512Mb at the moment - probably as 2 x 256Mb DIMMs which you would have to remove and replace with either 2 x 512Mbs or 2 x 1Gbs. About this Mac/More Information will tell you what RAM is installed in the iMac and in what slots.
As to cost I couldn't say exactly but in relative terms not much - check out a reputable reseller for prices on Crucial or Kingston. RAM is pretty cheap these days.
How much is enough? Well depending on what you do - 1Gb is adequate, 2Gb is better as a "subjective guide" playing WoW on 512Mb is bearable - 760 passable and 1Gb good. More RAM is always better
OK as to the Dock programme - all it actually does is tweak a couple of underlying parameters. Like all good items of its kind you can simply click a button and return the Dock to its "official" state.
Hope that helps you
SGockel007 - Nov 12, 2007 - 6:35 am
OK thank you for all the help! I think I have the information I need to make a decision. By the way, my brother has Mac OS 10.5 so if I install it I wont have to pay. I think I will stick with Tiger for a while, it serves its purpose well. Thank you! - Sam
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