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TICKET ARCHIVE -> Mac Powerbook Duo And Docs
mleeee - Sep 18, 2005 - 3:32 pm
I'm degree level in computer science with some years experience. S/W and H/W.
Intro
----- I have 3 old company Powerbook Duos, and 4 docking stations. They have old data on that I would like to recover and put on a PC.
The data is in compressed archive, written incrementally by Retrospect until the disc in the Doc - then huge at 2Gb - filled. My problem is that I have no disc big enough to extract the incremental archive to, in order to get all the files back.
Plan is to connect mac to local network [Linsys router and PCs running XP SP2] and hopefully map a PC drive as the recovery drive.
Problem 1
--------- One docking station works, and is cabled to a Linksys router over ethernet. ... so I am combat-capable.
Other docking stations have the 'ticking power supply' problem, and I remember reading a London Uni College tech report on how to fix the power supplies. It was a single capacitor which was the culprit, if I remember correctly.
Q1: ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIX THE PSUs IN THE DUODOCKs ?
Problem 2
--------- Cannot get DAVE to work properly to the Linksys router. It's complaining some bit of network or TCP software is missing. I suspect this is missing from an OS install. I think the powerbook Duo is running 7.5.1. Plenty of RAM and disc. I think it should have all it needs.
Q2: ANYONE A 'DAVE' Guru? Please get in touch.
Problem 3
--------- User is an idiot, so by definition may be tackling this the 'hardest way possible'. Here are some other bits of info:
a) Have MacLan on a PC and not sure what to tell the Linksys Router so it can see the Duo from the PC side.
b) Mac Duo system has CD-RW on it, but can Retrospect restore to CDs?
c) Don't have (and can't remember) what the CD burning software on the Duos was. I have a LACIE drive, so I assume I have some free stuff with it somewhere [in a box, where box could be in any of usual places following TWO house moves (ie activation energy is HUGE to attempt to find what I may not have anyway!!)]
d) have someone else do it. (If this is sensible, I want the person on-site here.)
Q3: ANY BETTER STRATEGY SUGGESTIONS?
At the end of this show, the equipment will be scrapped. If anyone helps me to a successful recovery of me data and would like the kit, then I'll put them in a draw to win the lot.
Lastly, I could crack this by re-booting all my old-mac skills, but it would be much faster to pick y'all brains.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
Matt Lee
Intro
----- I have 3 old company Powerbook Duos, and 4 docking stations. They have old data on that I would like to recover and put on a PC.
The data is in compressed archive, written incrementally by Retrospect until the disc in the Doc - then huge at 2Gb - filled. My problem is that I have no disc big enough to extract the incremental archive to, in order to get all the files back.
Plan is to connect mac to local network [Linsys router and PCs running XP SP2] and hopefully map a PC drive as the recovery drive.
Problem 1
--------- One docking station works, and is cabled to a Linksys router over ethernet. ... so I am combat-capable.
Other docking stations have the 'ticking power supply' problem, and I remember reading a London Uni College tech report on how to fix the power supplies. It was a single capacitor which was the culprit, if I remember correctly.
Q1: ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIX THE PSUs IN THE DUODOCKs ?
Problem 2
--------- Cannot get DAVE to work properly to the Linksys router. It's complaining some bit of network or TCP software is missing. I suspect this is missing from an OS install. I think the powerbook Duo is running 7.5.1. Plenty of RAM and disc. I think it should have all it needs.
Q2: ANYONE A 'DAVE' Guru? Please get in touch.
Problem 3
--------- User is an idiot, so by definition may be tackling this the 'hardest way possible'. Here are some other bits of info:
a) Have MacLan on a PC and not sure what to tell the Linksys Router so it can see the Duo from the PC side.
b) Mac Duo system has CD-RW on it, but can Retrospect restore to CDs?
c) Don't have (and can't remember) what the CD burning software on the Duos was. I have a LACIE drive, so I assume I have some free stuff with it somewhere [in a box, where box could be in any of usual places following TWO house moves (ie activation energy is HUGE to attempt to find what I may not have anyway!!)]
d) have someone else do it. (If this is sensible, I want the person on-site here.)
Q3: ANY BETTER STRATEGY SUGGESTIONS?
At the end of this show, the equipment will be scrapped. If anyone helps me to a successful recovery of me data and would like the kit, then I'll put them in a draw to win the lot.
Lastly, I could crack this by re-booting all my old-mac skills, but it would be much faster to pick y'all brains.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
Matt Lee
DeltaMac - Sep 18, 2005 - 4:41 pm
As I was reading your post, and thinking how cranky a network connection can be from a Mac running some version of System 7. This used to work pretty good, but newer networking protocols have left it behind, and it can be a struggle to network...
How about straight to a different recovery strategy?
Pull the working Duo Dock apart, and remover that hard drive (it will be SCSI). Transplant the hard drive into the CD-RW case (external SCSI, right?)
That leaves you with the challenge of locating a Mac with a SCSI port (could be a PCI SCSI card, too), and then copy off the hard drive directly to whatever media you want to use.
Let me know if that helps you at all...
- Dale
How about straight to a different recovery strategy?
Pull the working Duo Dock apart, and remover that hard drive (it will be SCSI). Transplant the hard drive into the CD-RW case (external SCSI, right?)
That leaves you with the challenge of locating a Mac with a SCSI port (could be a PCI SCSI card, too), and then copy off the hard drive directly to whatever media you want to use.
Let me know if that helps you at all...
- Dale
mleeee - Sep 19, 2005 - 12:32 pm
Thanks for this thought, Dale.
The older Macs are, indeed, a bit quirky; but I remember they used to do this stuff ok, so I am encouraged to persevere.
I think I'm still stuck. I can't move the drive in the dock, as I need a mac running Retrospect to 'recover' the archive I have on the dock drive.
That's the catch. I can copy the raw data as you suggest, but I still then have a compressed archive, which I can't uncompress.
As the dock drive is far bigger than any drive I have available on any of the powerbooks, I need to restore the incremental archive (one copy of the world, plus all its incremental changes for some years !) to a far bigger disc as target for the resulting huge uncompressed recovery.
The PC has a huge disc by comparison, and is the obvious target.
... however, as you say, knitting this lot together and making it work is a challenge.
However, I have got the mac to see the internet through the router, so quite a lot is working almost, but not quite entirely, just fine.
I'm not convinced I've set DAVE up correctly. I think I have lied (well, blind guesswork) about the IP structure. DAVE is an old utility which makes a Mac talk Microsoft Network Client.
I'm not convinced the Mac is asking the router - acting as DHCP host - for an IP address. I can't see the Mac in the client table in the router from the PC end - so the Router can't "see" the Mac yet.
MacLan on the PC should talk the correct Mac protocols through the router just fine. But have not got that to work either.
However, they're just computers, so we shall beat them.
Matt
The older Macs are, indeed, a bit quirky; but I remember they used to do this stuff ok, so I am encouraged to persevere.
I think I'm still stuck. I can't move the drive in the dock, as I need a mac running Retrospect to 'recover' the archive I have on the dock drive.
That's the catch. I can copy the raw data as you suggest, but I still then have a compressed archive, which I can't uncompress.
As the dock drive is far bigger than any drive I have available on any of the powerbooks, I need to restore the incremental archive (one copy of the world, plus all its incremental changes for some years !) to a far bigger disc as target for the resulting huge uncompressed recovery.
The PC has a huge disc by comparison, and is the obvious target.
... however, as you say, knitting this lot together and making it work is a challenge.
However, I have got the mac to see the internet through the router, so quite a lot is working almost, but not quite entirely, just fine.
I'm not convinced I've set DAVE up correctly. I think I have lied (well, blind guesswork) about the IP structure. DAVE is an old utility which makes a Mac talk Microsoft Network Client.
I'm not convinced the Mac is asking the router - acting as DHCP host - for an IP address. I can't see the Mac in the client table in the router from the PC end - so the Router can't "see" the Mac yet.
MacLan on the PC should talk the correct Mac protocols through the router just fine. But have not got that to work either.
However, they're just computers, so we shall beat them.
Matt
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