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TraciePSFWS - Jul 8, 2008 - 4:08 pm

We downloaded Leopard on my eMac a little while back. I am now missing iPhoto and iDVD. What can I do to restore them? I still have iMovie. I don't want the new iLife 08 because I don't like the newer version of iMovie nor do I think what I have supports the new iLife. The specs on my eMac are:
Model Name: eMac
Model Identifier: PowerMac6,4
Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (1.1)
Processor Speed: 1.25 GHz
Number Of CPUs: 1
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 768 MB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.8.2f1
Thank you for your help

DeltaMac - Jul 8, 2008 - 6:47 pm

If you did an Erase and Install of Leopard, then you have lost those apps, as they are not part of the Leopard install. iLife '08 is also not part of the Leopard install. You would purchase the iLife software if you need that upgraded. You can reinstall the iLife apps that you had using your original installer DVD - it's one of the grey disks that shipped with your eMac. Just insert disk #1, and run the software installer. That will allow to you to customize the install so you can install just iPhoto and iDVD, for example. You don't even restart to install those apps.

Let me know how it goes...
- Dale

TraciePSFWS - Jul 8, 2008 - 8:18 pm

HI Dale,
It did not go well. I really screwed up. I used the eMac software, I choose custom install and selected iPhoto. NOw my system is back to using Panther instead of Leopard. Crap. Now what?

DeltaMac - Jul 8, 2008 - 9:55 pm

Now what? Don't use your older installer again, eh?
I apologize, as I didn't make myself clear about installing just the apps.
Your clue should have been the restart that you had to do before you installed the older iPhoto. As I said, you don't need to restart to install just the apps. Don't open the OS X install, but just open the other installer on that install disk, which might be named "Optional installs' or something similar.
And, now what? Reinstall Leopard (again), and make sure to use the option to Archive & Install. That option will be available on the screen when you choose the destination drive. Click the Options button, and change to Archive & Install, then continue with the Leopard install.
When you are done with the upgrade (again) - open your hard drive, and trash the folder - 'Previous Systems'. It will be taking up a lot of space on your hard drive by now, and will have 10's of thousands of files in it that you should delete. Drag to the trash, then empty the trash. It will take 20 minutes or so to empty, so be patient.
Finally, run Software update, and you should be good to go....
- Dale

TraciePSFWS - Jul 9, 2008 - 7:36 am

HI Dale,
I really appreciate your help. We panicked last night and called apple help. I wish I had been able to get to your response 1st. sigh. She had me install Leopard all over again. The frustrating thing is that she started out having me use option choice then she changed her mind and had me install Leopard without doing that. I see that I have a file that says previous system. When I open I can access all my old stuff in there. Ok...stupid question... is there anyway I can put all that back on in one drop? I have already dropped all my iTunes stuff back into place. Another question is that in the file previous systems there are 3 folders from 3 different systems. I know that the 3rd one was what I was using before I created all this mess. Is it safe to trash the 1st 2 previous system folders? Like you said its probably all kinds of crap I don't need anymore taking lots of space.
The good news is that somehow, miraculously, I now have iPhoto and iDVD again. So...one good thing came from this at least!
Thanks again for your very kind patience and help.

DeltaMac - Jul 9, 2008 - 7:50 am

I would look in each Previous system folder, checking for files that belong to YOU. Particularly, look in the Previous system/Users folder for anything that might be yours.
Other folders, such as Applications, look for non-Apple apps. Normally you will just see the normal Apple apps, so you are looking for any apps that you may have added to your Mac, and that you still want to keep. Look in any Documents folders, also.
If you don't see anything that you may have created/Music/Pictures/Movies, etc, then, yes, just trash those previous folders. Again, be sure to empty the trash, as they will take up a lot of space until you empty that trash.

TraciePSFWS - Jul 10, 2008 - 9:51 pm

Ok. Looks like I am getting it all cleaned up. That was great advice. I am running into glitches here and there. One glitch I have is that I purchased something called Slick 3 a little while back from the Apple Store on line. I downloaded it. Its an application for iMovie. Its in my previous file folder. In order for me to reinstall it is asking for a serial number. I am sure they sent me that in an email when I purchased it but unfortunatly I never kept the email. Any idea's on how to get that back?

DeltaMac - Jul 10, 2008 - 10:34 pm

The registration file might be in the old User/library/Preferences folder. Look for the name Slick, or the name of the developer or software company that made Slick. Copy the file to your new user/Library/Preferences folder. Sometimes you get lucky,
Or, You could try contacting the developer for Slick 3.
That's the only ideas that I have.
- Dale

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TraciePSFWS - Jul 15, 2008 - 10:43 am

HI Dale,
Thanks again for your help. The maker of Slick sent me my registration number. I got very lucky. I have a new question for you. In all this mess I did get my iDVD back but ( big surprise)it is no longer compatible. So my only option at this point is that I have to bite the bullet and get iLife 08. I did not want it because I dislike their newer version of iMovie but I understand you can download iMovie 6. So thats good. I am hoping iMovie 6 will be compatible to the new iDVD 8. Here is my question... what do I need to add or rather can I add to my eMac so that it will support iLife 08? These are my specs:
Model Name: eMac
Model Identifier: PowerMac6,4
Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (1.1)
Processor Speed: 1.25 GHz
Number Of CPUs: 1
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 768 MB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.8.2f1
This is what iLife 08 Needs in order to operate:
System Requirements
• Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 processor; iMovie requires a Mac with an Intel processor, a Power Mac G5 (dual 2.0GHz or faster), or an iMac G5 (1.9GHz or faster; iDVD requires a 733MHz or faster processor.
• 512MB of RAM; 1GB recommended
• Mac OS X v10.4.11 or later
• 3GB of available disk space
• DVD drive for installation
• QuickTime 7.5 or later
Notes:
• High-definition video requires at least 1GB of RAM.
• Burning DVDs requires an Apple SuperDrive or compatible third-party DVD burner.
Am I going to need this "Apple SuperDrive"? Why can't I just use the computer to do that?
Thanks for your time.
-Tracie