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| DATE | Oct 2, 2006 |
| TICKET | #28563 |
| STATUS | Closed |
| SUBJECT | Navigating columns: how to go up 1 level |
| CAT | Computers, Operating Systems, Applications or Connected Devices |
| TYPE | Software Applications |
| DESC | Operating Systems |
| DESC | |
| PLATFORM | Apple Macintosh (PowerPC G3,G4,G5) |
| MODEL | G4 |
| PROC | 1000 mhz |
| RAM | 1024 mb |
| DRIVE | |
| NAME | Bobby |
| USERNAME | nuubie |
| TECHNICAL | Little Experience |
| ISSUE | Stumped |
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TICKET ARCHIVE -> Navigating columns: how to go up 1 level
nuubie - Oct 2, 2006 - 10:03 am
So I'm in Finder/Applications in List View (its VERY long) and I want to collapse the folder. Like go from Safari to Applications. There must be a quick, easy way, like in Windows Explorer when you hit the left arrow button, to do this in the Finder, Path Finder, etc. But I've tried every key combo I can think of. I can't believe they would have left such an obvious navigational tool out. As inventors often say, "There's just gotta be a way!"
DeltaMac - Oct 2, 2006 - 10:24 am
Sure - Command-click on the title bar on that window, and select whatever level you want to move up to.... One level down on the list takes you up one level.
The drop-down list actually displays the path to that folder (in reverse order), and you can choose whatever level you wish.
- Dale
The drop-down list actually displays the path to that folder (in reverse order), and you can choose whatever level you wish.
- Dale
nuubie - Oct 2, 2006 - 7:00 pm
Weird....I sent a response to this but now its not here. Basically I couldn't understand what you mean by:
" One level down on the list takes you up one level."
I don't want to use the mouse as it wastes time and energy hopping from the kb to the mouse hundreds of times a day. That's why I want to be able to collapse the column, say if I'm at a program called Zappp, and want to go up to Applications without having to hold down the up arrow key. Windows Explorer just uses the left arrow key and poof - your at the next level up. Instantly the column is collapsed. Its hard to believe OS X has ignored the "back" command on their arrow keys. The right arrow opens the folder so it would be logical for the left arrow to collapse the column. But then again there are so many illogical aspets of this OS....
I wouldn't be surprised if I need to hop to the mouse every time I have to collapse a column. Tell me I'm wrong, please.
" One level down on the list takes you up one level."
I don't want to use the mouse as it wastes time and energy hopping from the kb to the mouse hundreds of times a day. That's why I want to be able to collapse the column, say if I'm at a program called Zappp, and want to go up to Applications without having to hold down the up arrow key. Windows Explorer just uses the left arrow key and poof - your at the next level up. Instantly the column is collapsed. Its hard to believe OS X has ignored the "back" command on their arrow keys. The right arrow opens the folder so it would be logical for the left arrow to collapse the column. But then again there are so many illogical aspets of this OS....
I wouldn't be surprised if I need to hop to the mouse every time I have to collapse a column. Tell me I'm wrong, please.
DeltaMac - Oct 3, 2006 - 2:06 am
" One level down on the list takes you up one level."
Try it (holding the command key - and clicking on the title bar), and you will see what that means.
Sorry you don't appreciate the mouse, but the MacOS has been mouse-driven since day one. I can't convince you that's better, but, by-and-large, that's one distinction between Windows and the MacOS.
Robin, you may find better responses, along with more varied perspectives if you post your specific user questions to the main forums. You will find that a larger variety of users post there, and perhaps another, better way than your attempts at keyboard control.
BTW - you can return to Applications (as in your example), by typing Apple-Shift-A
Thanks for using MacOSX.com
- Dale
Try it (holding the command key - and clicking on the title bar), and you will see what that means.
Sorry you don't appreciate the mouse, but the MacOS has been mouse-driven since day one. I can't convince you that's better, but, by-and-large, that's one distinction between Windows and the MacOS.
Robin, you may find better responses, along with more varied perspectives if you post your specific user questions to the main forums. You will find that a larger variety of users post there, and perhaps another, better way than your attempts at keyboard control.
BTW - you can return to Applications (as in your example), by typing Apple-Shift-A
Thanks for using MacOSX.com
- Dale
Natobasso - Oct 3, 2006 - 7:26 am
Howdy! No mouse needed on this.
Make sure you're in Column View (it's the icon on far right at the top of each window that's opened) and you can use the arrow keys to move left or right, up or down.
Hope that helps!
Make sure you're in Column View (it's the icon on far right at the top of each window that's opened) and you can use the arrow keys to move left or right, up or down.
Hope that helps!
nuubie - Oct 3, 2006 - 4:52 pm
Dale - you are very perceptive! lol....
I figured I'd start a new, more polite identity. Kind of burned my bridges with the last one....
And I was thinking about that - about the forums. Why post to one person when perhaps thousands may read? Though one on one can be better in the beginning and you have helped me tremendously through these last few months, I will try your suggestion next time something perplexes me. Like in 5 minutes.....
Well maybe the left arrow thingee will be implemented in Leopard.
Do you think that its possible that Apple or Microsoft can "patent" a keystroke or shortcut so the other company can't use it? I was wondering about that. That would explain a lot.
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Natobasso:
Thanks for the suggestion but I'm all Columned out! I use Column view most of the time. I'm trying to get use to List view as it has distinct advantages in navigation sometimes. I've been converting to Path Finder and its quite the program. I should have just learnt it from scratch for a few hours the first day, but that's kind of dry. Thorough but dry.
I figured I'd start a new, more polite identity. Kind of burned my bridges with the last one....
And I was thinking about that - about the forums. Why post to one person when perhaps thousands may read? Though one on one can be better in the beginning and you have helped me tremendously through these last few months, I will try your suggestion next time something perplexes me. Like in 5 minutes.....
Well maybe the left arrow thingee will be implemented in Leopard.
Do you think that its possible that Apple or Microsoft can "patent" a keystroke or shortcut so the other company can't use it? I was wondering about that. That would explain a lot.
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Natobasso:
Thanks for the suggestion but I'm all Columned out!
I use Column view most of the time. I'm trying to get use to List view as it has distinct advantages in navigation sometimes. I've been converting to Path Finder and its quite the program. I should have just learnt it from scratch for a few hours the first day, but that's kind of dry. Thorough but dry.
Natobasso - Oct 4, 2006 - 7:00 am
Well, I did answer your question whether you want to use columns or not.
nuubie - Oct 4, 2006 - 1:38 pm
Yes you did.
You may notice however that the question starts with:
"So I'm in Finder/Applications in List View"
I should have mentioned that I need this to work in List view though with the mention of how it works in Windows Explorer, that should have eliminated Column view for the solutions. But I realize its hard to know what people are thinking or implying or what their options are, and its up to the original poster to be as chrystal clear as possible.
You may notice however that the question starts with:
"So I'm in Finder/Applications in List View"
I should have mentioned that I need this to work in List view though with the mention of how it works in Windows Explorer, that should have eliminated Column view for the solutions. But I realize its hard to know what people are thinking or implying or what their options are, and its up to the original poster to be as chrystal clear as possible.
Zadig - Oct 5, 2006 - 9:41 pm
In the list view - highlight a folder Command + right arrow key will expand the folder - Command + left arrow key will collapse it. Command + up arrow key will take up a level and Command + down arrow key etc etc.... just keep pressing the keys you'll see what i mean.
Think thats what you are looking for.
Think thats what you are looking for.
TechSupport - Oct 9, 2006 - 3:52 pm
nuubie - Oct 10, 2006 - 12:43 pm
I thought this would be obvious but I guess not. I meant that once I'm done the column it doesn't collapse like Left Arrow does in Windows explorer. In WE I can be 500 names down and hit the left arrow and instantly I'm at the next level up. In OS x, I have to scroll up, or page up or other needless time wasting tedious actions to go up one level.
YOu see how painful this would be if you have to do this over and over?
Now if I Command+Up Arrow it takes me not to the next folder up but to 2 folders up. What labotomized lab rats design this stuff? Its utterly ludricous.
I pity you people having to support such an inherently illogical OS. But its great that you do. Gotta wring what you can out of it. Anything's better than constant virus invasions.
UPdate - now that last command doesn't even work. MOre consistantcy.
Apple: "Taking a bite out of your sanity, day by day."
Has a nice ring to it. Just made it up.
I would love to be wrong and see a way of going up a level (once down a long list) quickly and easily like in Windows Explorer. I use Finder and (mostly) Path Finder. I realize Mac Explorer does this, but it seems like an unfinished program and there are so many good things that Path Finder does, but this is one of the few difficiencies.
As an aside, something bizarre is happening with Path Finder lately....if I leave it with the focus on my main hard drive, a few seconds later the focus goes to Network. I have no Network. Single hard drive on one computer. I've trashed the Preferences in Path Finder. For comparison, I checked but it doesn't do it in Finder so it must be something wrong in Path Finder. I'd hate to have to go back to Finder Mac Explorer after discovering Path Finder. Wonderful program in general.
YOu see how painful this would be if you have to do this over and over?
Now if I Command+Up Arrow it takes me not to the next folder up but to 2 folders up. What labotomized lab rats design this stuff? Its utterly ludricous.
I pity you people having to support such an inherently illogical OS. But its great that you do. Gotta wring what you can out of it. Anything's better than constant virus invasions.
UPdate - now that last command doesn't even work. MOre consistantcy.
Apple: "Taking a bite out of your sanity, day by day."
Has a nice ring to it. Just made it up.
I would love to be wrong and see a way of going up a level (once down a long list) quickly and easily like in Windows Explorer. I use Finder and (mostly) Path Finder. I realize Mac Explorer does this, but it seems like an unfinished program and there are so many good things that Path Finder does, but this is one of the few difficiencies.
As an aside, something bizarre is happening with Path Finder lately....if I leave it with the focus on my main hard drive, a few seconds later the focus goes to Network. I have no Network. Single hard drive on one computer. I've trashed the Preferences in Path Finder. For comparison, I checked but it doesn't do it in Finder so it must be something wrong in Path Finder. I'd hate to have to go back to Finder Mac Explorer after discovering Path Finder. Wonderful program in general.
TechSupport - Oct 10, 2006 - 5:33 pm
nuubie - Oct 11, 2006 - 2:00 pm
UPDATE: to the focus problem mentioned at the end of the last post.......
I changed the default starting out point to a folder in that hard drive and now its fine. ??? Bizarre.
Now I changed it back. It seems to be working. Maybe it just needs to be restarted or something else (perhaps the computer?). I repaired permissions before but that seemed not to matter.
Well - how happy times when things just fix themselves.
I changed the default starting out point to a folder in that hard drive and now its fine. ??? Bizarre.
Now I changed it back. It seems to be working. Maybe it just needs to be restarted or something else (perhaps the computer?). I repaired permissions before but that seemed not to matter.
Well - how happy times when things just fix themselves.
TechSupport - Oct 18, 2006 - 11:22 pm
nuubie - Oct 23, 2006 - 6:13 am
TechSupport - Oct 26, 2006 - 6:14 am
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