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whatusername - May 26, 2005 - 4:39 am
Hello there,
I have a 5 macs and a printer to network, please help! The macs are a G3 powermac, G4, G4imac, and a powerbook all running Mac OS9 and a new imac G5. I beleive that I need to do it using an ethernet? Is this right and how would I do this? thanks
I have a 5 macs and a printer to network, please help! The macs are a G3 powermac, G4, G4imac, and a powerbook all running Mac OS9 and a new imac G5. I beleive that I need to do it using an ethernet? Is this right and how would I do this? thanks
Saxphile - May 26, 2005 - 5:16 am
Hi Jo,
A few questions I need to ask before making any recommendations:
1. Do you need internet connectivity?
2. What model is the printer? How is it connected now (USB, parallel, etc)?
3. Do you need a wireless network?
4. Do you plan to upgrade your computers to Mac OS X any time soon?
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
A few questions I need to ask before making any recommendations:
1. Do you need internet connectivity?
2. What model is the printer? How is it connected now (USB, parallel, etc)?
3. Do you need a wireless network?
4. Do you plan to upgrade your computers to Mac OS X any time soon?
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
whatusername - May 31, 2005 - 5:02 pm
Hello,
thanks for the reply. In answer to your questions:
1. I do need internet connectivity to work across the net work if possible.
2. The printer is connected via a usb cable at the moment. It does have a ethernet socket in the back too.
3. I would consider using a wireless network, but are the older machines equipped for this?
4. I am planning on upgrading the two G4's to OSX, the G5 is OSX, but would the older machines cope with OSX?
Thanks
thanks for the reply. In answer to your questions:
1. I do need internet connectivity to work across the net work if possible.
2. The printer is connected via a usb cable at the moment. It does have a ethernet socket in the back too.
3. I would consider using a wireless network, but are the older machines equipped for this?
4. I am planning on upgrading the two G4's to OSX, the G5 is OSX, but would the older machines cope with OSX?
Thanks
Saxphile - May 31, 2005 - 5:23 pm
Hi Jo,
It sounds like a wireless router with built-in hubs is the best solution for you. I recommend Linksys WRT54G. It is the most versatile product on the market. You can easily add Apple's Airport station to the network later, too.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...12035?v=glance
Obviously you'd need some kind of internet connection, too. Whether it's DSL or cable, make sure you get a modem that has an Ethernet interface rather than USB. If you already have one, tell me which model it is.
You need to have at least two computers on wireless network since there's only 4 ports on the Linksys router (or you could buy an additional switch and connect more computer through Ethernet). I think apart from the PowerMac G3 they should all be airport-capable. It might be difficult to find the original Airport card (discontinued) for them, however. The iMac G5 takes the new Airport Extreme card, so you can easily upgrade that one for wireless network. Airport network works much better in OS X, so I'd upgrade the computers to be connected wirelessly.
Please tell me the model numbers of your Macs and their respective memory size. If in doubt go to www.everymac.com and verify. Or you can use this website:
http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html
Just put in the serial number and it'll tell you the model number. You'd still need to find out the memory size, however. With that information I can tell you whether you should upgrade to OS X and/or add Airport card.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
It sounds like a wireless router with built-in hubs is the best solution for you. I recommend Linksys WRT54G. It is the most versatile product on the market. You can easily add Apple's Airport station to the network later, too.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...12035?v=glance
Obviously you'd need some kind of internet connection, too. Whether it's DSL or cable, make sure you get a modem that has an Ethernet interface rather than USB. If you already have one, tell me which model it is.
You need to have at least two computers on wireless network since there's only 4 ports on the Linksys router (or you could buy an additional switch and connect more computer through Ethernet). I think apart from the PowerMac G3 they should all be airport-capable. It might be difficult to find the original Airport card (discontinued) for them, however. The iMac G5 takes the new Airport Extreme card, so you can easily upgrade that one for wireless network. Airport network works much better in OS X, so I'd upgrade the computers to be connected wirelessly.
Please tell me the model numbers of your Macs and their respective memory size. If in doubt go to www.everymac.com and verify. Or you can use this website:
http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html
Just put in the serial number and it'll tell you the model number. You'd still need to find out the memory size, however. With that information I can tell you whether you should upgrade to OS X and/or add Airport card.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
whatusername - Jun 1, 2005 - 5:55 am
Thanks for your help, most useful.
The modem has an ethernet cable port, It is an Intel Modem.
So from what I understand I need a wireless routher with hubs.
Sorry for being dumb, but would I plug the older machines in to the hubs and then connect the others via wireless?
I have got my hands on a switch it is a CenterCom 3016SL. would I be able to use this with an airport?
The printer model is an Elite XL 20/600.
Thanks
The modem has an ethernet cable port, It is an Intel Modem.
So from what I understand I need a wireless routher with hubs.
Sorry for being dumb, but would I plug the older machines in to the hubs and then connect the others via wireless?
I have got my hands on a switch it is a CenterCom 3016SL. would I be able to use this with an airport?
The printer model is an Elite XL 20/600.
Thanks
Saxphile - Jun 1, 2005 - 6:08 am
Hi Jo,
If you get a wireless router with a built-in hub, you can definitely connect your older machine via Ethernet and newer ones via Airport.
I don't know if your modem works as a router (I need the model number), but if it does you can just plug a switch into it, and then you can connect Airport base station to the switch.
As long as you know that the printer works over Ethernet (I've never heard of Elite), you'll be fine. Otherwise you can always get Airport Express or Airport Extreme which allows you to share a USB printer.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
If you get a wireless router with a built-in hub, you can definitely connect your older machine via Ethernet and newer ones via Airport.
I don't know if your modem works as a router (I need the model number), but if it does you can just plug a switch into it, and then you can connect Airport base station to the switch.
As long as you know that the printer works over Ethernet (I've never heard of Elite), you'll be fine. Otherwise you can always get Airport Express or Airport Extreme which allows you to share a USB printer.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
whatusername - Jun 1, 2005 - 6:09 am
In answer to your questions about the mac I am going to upgrade the two powermac G4`s to OSX they both have 384MB. I cannot find the serial numbers to them. What would I need to buy for the wireless to work on them?
The G5Imac is a 1.8GHz Power PC with 256MB
I know I have to buy an Airport Extream card for the G5.
The G4imac has 6GB of memory. The Powerbook G3 has 64MB but I have just realised that it is OS8.6. Can This be upgraded to go on the network?
Also how do you network OSX with OS9? I believe It can be done.
Many Thanks
The G5Imac is a 1.8GHz Power PC with 256MB
I know I have to buy an Airport Extream card for the G5.
The G4imac has 6GB of memory. The Powerbook G3 has 64MB but I have just realised that it is OS8.6. Can This be upgraded to go on the network?
Also how do you network OSX with OS9? I believe It can be done.
Many Thanks
Saxphile - Jun 1, 2005 - 6:22 am
Hi Jo,
Both PowerMac G4s need more ram. I'd say at least 512, but 1G+ would be better. You can find the serial number in System Profiler. Or if you could tell me the CPU speed it would help, too.
The iMac G4 can't have 6GB of RAM. The maximum is 1GB. Again you could find that information in System Profiler. I'd leave the Powerbook G3 as is, unless you run into problem with networking (you probably will if you run Tiger). OS 9 does work better than OS8.6 in terms of networking, and you can definitely network OS9 with OS X via AppleTalk.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
Both PowerMac G4s need more ram. I'd say at least 512, but 1G+ would be better. You can find the serial number in System Profiler. Or if you could tell me the CPU speed it would help, too.
The iMac G4 can't have 6GB of RAM. The maximum is 1GB. Again you could find that information in System Profiler. I'd leave the Powerbook G3 as is, unless you run into problem with networking (you probably will if you run Tiger). OS 9 does work better than OS8.6 in terms of networking, and you can definitely network OS9 with OS X via AppleTalk.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
whatusername - Jun 1, 2005 - 6:57 am
Hello
the serial numbers for the two G4`s are CK0134DZHSE
and CK0123NB-HSE-FFFF
The powermacG3 has 266MHz. Thats all the info I can get out of the slow peice of crap!
The Serial number for the G4imac does not appear when I go to the system profiler.
The powerbookG3 has 64 MB
The modems model number is Pro/Dsl 3220 modem.
I know that the printer works via the ethernet.
thanks
the serial numbers for the two G4`s are CK0134DZHSE
and CK0123NB-HSE-FFFF
The powermacG3 has 266MHz. Thats all the info I can get out of the slow peice of crap!
The Serial number for the G4imac does not appear when I go to the system profiler.
The powerbookG3 has 64 MB
The modems model number is Pro/Dsl 3220 modem.
I know that the printer works via the ethernet.
thanks
Saxphile - Jun 1, 2005 - 6:32 pm
Hi Jo,
It looks like your PowerMac G4s take the original Airport card. So if you get more memory for them they'd run Panther or Tiger quite happily, and so is the iMac G4. You can get the Airport card here:
http://www.powerbookguy.com/
or here:
http://www.pbfixit.com/cart/catalog/...ss_page_1.html
I'd just let the two G3s be. They're probably too old to be upgraded.
Your modem appears to be a USB only model. Are you sure it has a Ethernet (RJ-45) port in addition to a phone line (RJ-11, slightly narrower) port?
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
It looks like your PowerMac G4s take the original Airport card. So if you get more memory for them they'd run Panther or Tiger quite happily, and so is the iMac G4. You can get the Airport card here:
http://www.powerbookguy.com/
or here:
http://www.pbfixit.com/cart/catalog/...ss_page_1.html
I'd just let the two G3s be. They're probably too old to be upgraded.
Your modem appears to be a USB only model. Are you sure it has a Ethernet (RJ-45) port in addition to a phone line (RJ-11, slightly narrower) port?
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
whatusername - Jun 2, 2005 - 12:39 pm
Hello,
thanks for you time on this one.
the modem does seem to have an ethernet port.
I gave networking two macs together ago just through apple talk. But in OSX it seems complicated. I can connect to the G5 from the G4 but not the other way around. How would I connect to the G4 from the new G5? Can you help
many thanks
thanks for you time on this one.
the modem does seem to have an ethernet port.
I gave networking two macs together ago just through apple talk. But in OSX it seems complicated. I can connect to the G5 from the G4 but not the other way around. How would I connect to the G4 from the new G5? Can you help
many thanks
Saxphile - Jun 2, 2005 - 6:31 pm
Hi Jo,
I have to admit that I know very little about how to actually use legacy Mac OS. I joined the Mac world after 10.2, and while I know how Mac OS 8 or 9 works and what they can do, I'm not familiar with their interfaces or commands. So I'll help you as much as I can. Names might not be exact since I have a non-English version of OS 9.22 on my Mac.
In OS 9, go to Control Panel -> File Sharing. Turn on AppleTalk and enable AppleTalk over TCP/IP (very important). Set up an user so you can login to the OS 9 machine. That should be the sum of it. If you browser the Network on the OS X machine you should see the G4 (remember to turn on AppleTalk in System Preferences -> Network).
If you want, you can start another topic for your legacy Mac OS networking problems. I've never spent more than 20 minutes with a OS 8.6 machine so I definitely cannot help you there. I'm happy to help you with OS X and network hardware stuff, however.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
I have to admit that I know very little about how to actually use legacy Mac OS. I joined the Mac world after 10.2, and while I know how Mac OS 8 or 9 works and what they can do, I'm not familiar with their interfaces or commands. So I'll help you as much as I can. Names might not be exact since I have a non-English version of OS 9.22 on my Mac.
In OS 9, go to Control Panel -> File Sharing. Turn on AppleTalk and enable AppleTalk over TCP/IP (very important). Set up an user so you can login to the OS 9 machine. That should be the sum of it. If you browser the Network on the OS X machine you should see the G4 (remember to turn on AppleTalk in System Preferences -> Network).
If you want, you can start another topic for your legacy Mac OS networking problems. I've never spent more than 20 minutes with a OS 8.6 machine so I definitely cannot help you there. I'm happy to help you with OS X and network hardware stuff, however.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
Saxphile - Jun 7, 2005 - 7:06 am
Hi Jo,
Just want to check if you need further assistance with your problem.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
Just want to check if you need further assistance with your problem.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
whatusername - Jun 14, 2005 - 2:52 pm
I am working through things thankyou, I am fine for now but may need your help in the future. I have a few questions brewing. Thank you for all of your assistance.
thanks
thanks
Saxphile - Jun 14, 2005 - 4:25 pm
Hi Jo,
Not a problem. You're welcome anytime.
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
Not a problem. You're welcome anytime.
Charlie
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso
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