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| DATE | Mar 13, 2007 |
| TICKET | #333600 |
| STATUS | Closed |
| SUBJECT | Networking vs. Router |
| CAT | Home/Business Network and/or Internet Connection |
| TYPE | Home Networking, Cable & DSL |
| DESC | |
| DESC | |
| PLATFORM | All Other Brand Computers Running Intel |
| MODEL | Windows XP MX7120 |
| PROC | 2188 MHz |
| RAM | 512 MB |
| DRIVE | 93.14 GB |
| NAME | RJ |
| USERNAME | rijoyce |
| TECHNICAL | Little Experience |
| ISSUE | Need Advice |
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TICKET ARCHIVE -> Networking vs. Router
rijoyce - Mar 13, 2007 - 10:17 am
This may be too involved to answer but could you tell me what the difference between routing a desktop pc to a laptop and hooking these same computers up via networking? I did the router bit quite awhile ago but then about a week ago I bought networking and really can't see what advantage it is.
Jabberwocky - Mar 13, 2007 - 12:25 pm
I think I understand what you mean...
Routing is a networking method as opposed to a physical component.
A Router is an "intelligent" physical device with connections to two or more networks that performs the routing. This is done by the use of software rules or filters that dictate what traffic should be directed or routed to which network.
A hub is a dumb device that simply connects devices on the same network to one another. It doesn't manage them or control the communication between them, it just provides the physical connectivity. e.g. three computers using the same printer, so all 4 devices would be connected to the same hub.
A common example of a router is the ubiquitous ADSL router that provides broadband to a house.
Example: an ADSL router is a box that connects my house to the internet via the phone line. The phone line is one network, the WAN (wide area network) and there is an ethernet socket on the back for my computer. The ethernet socket is the second network or LAN (local area network).
Typically, the LAN side of an ADSL router can be connected to your computer by USB cable or Ethernet cable depending on the model but nowadays many ADSL routers have more than one Ethernet socket in the back allowing you to connect more than one computer or printers - this part of the router is actually a hub.
I presume that this is what you mean by "I did the router bit quite awhile ago" and when you say you "bought networking" I presume you mean that you have bought some cabling and a hub and then linked the two computers together by plugging their cables into the hub.
If this is the case, then there is no difference to the communication between the desktop and the laptop as they are both connected via a hub on the same network. The only significant difference, is that the router can also direct traffic to another network such as the internet.
I hope that makes sense but get in touch if not!
Routing is a networking method as opposed to a physical component.
A Router is an "intelligent" physical device with connections to two or more networks that performs the routing. This is done by the use of software rules or filters that dictate what traffic should be directed or routed to which network.
A hub is a dumb device that simply connects devices on the same network to one another. It doesn't manage them or control the communication between them, it just provides the physical connectivity. e.g. three computers using the same printer, so all 4 devices would be connected to the same hub.
A common example of a router is the ubiquitous ADSL router that provides broadband to a house.
Example: an ADSL router is a box that connects my house to the internet via the phone line. The phone line is one network, the WAN (wide area network) and there is an ethernet socket on the back for my computer. The ethernet socket is the second network or LAN (local area network).
Typically, the LAN side of an ADSL router can be connected to your computer by USB cable or Ethernet cable depending on the model but nowadays many ADSL routers have more than one Ethernet socket in the back allowing you to connect more than one computer or printers - this part of the router is actually a hub.
I presume that this is what you mean by "I did the router bit quite awhile ago" and when you say you "bought networking" I presume you mean that you have bought some cabling and a hub and then linked the two computers together by plugging their cables into the hub.
If this is the case, then there is no difference to the communication between the desktop and the laptop as they are both connected via a hub on the same network. The only significant difference, is that the router can also direct traffic to another network such as the internet.
I hope that makes sense but get in touch if not!
rijoyce - Mar 13, 2007 - 12:50 pm
I'm not sure whether that answers it or not...lol I'll explain in a little more detail what I want. I hooked the router up to connect a desktop pc to a wireless laptop so they both could be connected to my dsl server via a modem. I bought the networking package because I thought I would be able to send files back and forth between computers without sending them via e-mail which I could do with just the router. I probably misunderstood what networking was. Example: I usually get my e-mails on my laptop but I get Paint Shop Pro tutorials and have to do them on my desktop because that's where I have Paint Shop Pro downloaded. So I wanted to be able to transfer these to the desktop but I think the only way I can do it is to e-mail them to myself and then I have to close the laptop OE and open the one on the desktop to get them to the right computer. The person that sold me the networking said both OE's could be open at the same time which they can but sometimes they come back to my laptop OE. Hope this isn't as confusing to you as it sounds to me. lol RJ
Jabberwocky - Mar 13, 2007 - 5:34 pm
OK, well you don't need to email the files to yourself! If both machines can see the internet to send & receive email then they are in effect both on the same network.
I just need to clarify your set-up to get the right answer.
Am I right that your DSL connection is a USB modem that is connected to the desktop?
And your router is a wireless router connected to the desktop by enternet cable and to the laptop wirelessly.
And your internet connection on the desktop is shared to allow the laptop to have internet access.
I just need to clarify your set-up to get the right answer.
Am I right that your DSL connection is a USB modem that is connected to the desktop?
And your router is a wireless router connected to the desktop by enternet cable and to the laptop wirelessly.
And your internet connection on the desktop is shared to allow the laptop to have internet access.
rijoyce - Mar 13, 2007 - 5:42 pm
But only one computer gets the e-mails is why I have to send it to myself on the other computer.
Yes you are correct in all of the above...
Yes you are correct in all of the above...
rijoyce - Mar 13, 2007 - 5:48 pm
But only one computer gets the e-mails is why I have to send it to myself on the other computer.
Yes you are correct in all of the above...
Yes you are correct in all of the above...
rijoyce - Mar 13, 2007 - 6:05 pm
But only one computer gets the e-mails is why I have to send it to myself on the other computer.
Yes you are correct in all of the above...
Yes you are correct in all of the above...
rijoyce - Mar 14, 2007 - 6:38 pm
You say you have not heard from me but according to the above, my reply is showing 3 times. Just in case its not showing there, I said "But only one computer gets the e-mails is why I have to send it to myself on the other computer. Yes you are correct in all of the above." Hope you get it this time.
Jabberwocky - Mar 15, 2007 - 4:55 am
I never said I hadn't heard from you...
Weird.
Either machine could get the emails, it is down to the preferences in the email program - whether it removes the email from the server after download. If the answer is yes, then the other machine will not find any email to download!
What email program are you using?
As to the networking, the easiest method is to create a common area that both machines can use. so create a shared area on the desktop & the laptop can make a connection request to \\ desktop name \ share name
Right-Click MY COMPUTER on the desktop and click the NETWORK IDENTIFICATION tab - this will display the published machine name e.g. PC1234
Right-click the folder you want to share, e.g. MY DOCUMENTS and select SHARING
Select the SHARE THIS FOLDER button and give the folder a share name e.g. MyFiles
Then you should be able to access this folder from the laptop by going to your Network Places and add a network place, pointing to \\PC1234\MyFiles
Weird.
Either machine could get the emails, it is down to the preferences in the email program - whether it removes the email from the server after download. If the answer is yes, then the other machine will not find any email to download!
What email program are you using?
As to the networking, the easiest method is to create a common area that both machines can use. so create a shared area on the desktop & the laptop can make a connection request to \\ desktop name \ share name
Right-Click MY COMPUTER on the desktop and click the NETWORK IDENTIFICATION tab - this will display the published machine name e.g. PC1234
Right-click the folder you want to share, e.g. MY DOCUMENTS and select SHARING
Select the SHARE THIS FOLDER button and give the folder a share name e.g. MyFiles
Then you should be able to access this folder from the laptop by going to your Network Places and add a network place, pointing to \\PC1234\MyFiles
rijoyce - Mar 15, 2007 - 7:04 am
Sorry, this is the e-mail I got about responding.
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rijoyce - Mar 16, 2007 - 8:13 am
I have everything set up for the sharing of things but some folders won't open. the message comes up that it is a firewall problem but I have the firewall set up right, I think...I downloaded a program called Network Magic which helped a lot...don't know what to do now to make the folders open.
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