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vicjoe - Jul 23, 2005 - 2:10 am

I just bought a Mac Mini running OS X 10.4.2 and need to transfer many files from a Beige G3 running OS 9.2.2 via file sharing. Complicating things is that Mac Help in Tiger is busted and Apple's support suggestions don't help to fix it, but that's not why I'm writing, or rather why I'm writing here. I need step by step instructions on both machines I'd guess. My setup is: both computers are connected to an Ethernet switch (wires), which is also connected to a Cable modem. I've determined that for the purposes of naming, my Mini is identified by the format Firstname-Lastname-Mac-Mini.local -- by the same token, looking at the name of my G3, in this case it would be in the format Firstname-Mac.local (where Firstname and Lastname are my names with an s added where there was an apostophe and an s, minus the apostrophe). Is that right?

So, I have both computers running (on the same monitor via a switch box) but can't figure out how to set this up, which one to set up first, how, etc. BTW, the switch is working fine in that I can see a ethernet networked HP printer on both machines, and print to it from either computer. The Mini only currently "sees" my cable server. It is probably simple and I'm making too much of it, being a Mac, but I'm stuck. Thanks for any assistance.

Thanks,
Joe

gsahli - Jul 23, 2005 - 11:35 am

The easiest way (right away) to transfer the files is to disconnect the switch from the Cablemodem (leave the two computers connected), and set up your two computers with manual IP addresses, one 192.168.0.10 and the other 192.168.0.11, with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 on both. Now, turn on file sharing on both (including allow connection via IP on the G3), and try connecting either way. I don't have an OS 9 computer handy, but I think it is easier to connect from OS X (GO > Connect to server).

For the long term, I think the real answer is for you to get a router in place of the switch. The router allows you to have a local network with file sharing, but still have the internet connection.

Without doing what I've suggested above, I think you are trying to set up sharing on the ISP's subnet. All (good) ISPs will block that.

Let me know how it goes.

vicjoe - Jul 25, 2005 - 12:37 am

When I said "switch (wired)" I meant that the device I had dynamically switched rather than sharing the bandwidth as in a hub. I guess I'm not sure of the difference between a router and a switch in the sense you use the latter term.
Here is a description of the box I have, from the mfg'r:
D-Link DSS-8+ Dual-Speed 8-port 10/100Mb Ethernet/Fast Ethernet NWay auto-negotiating Switch. It has the following properties:

* IEEE 802.3 10BaseT & IEEE 802.3u 100BaseTX compliant.
* Dynamic buffer allocation that employs network-load balancing.
* Fast store and forward architecture to ensure low latency and high data integrity.
* Support MII interface for flexible media connection and expansion.
PROTOCOL - CSMA/CD
APPROVALS-FCC A,CE,VCCI ,CSA 950, UL, TUV/GS

So, is this thing a router? It "routes" not only the cable input between two computers, but allows either computer to communicate with my HP CM2500 printer via Ethernet. Before I go out and buy a router, I want to make sure I don't already have one.

Thanks,
Joe

gsahli - Jul 25, 2005 - 7:27 am

Joe,
That's definitly a switch, not a router. A router also has a switch built-in (though usually only four jacks), but also does this: gives you a firewall to protect against people trying to login to your computers. Acts as DHCP server to automatically give your computers their local IP addresses. Does the authentication to the ISP for you, so no computer has to do that anymore. It "routes" internet traffic in & out of your network, while keeping files sharing and printing inside.

Were you able to setup the local-only network for file sharing?

vicjoe - Jul 25, 2005 - 1:36 pm

I get it; my box only does level 2, relying on MAC addresses whereas a router will allow routing to IP addresses (level 3).

No, I haven't set up the network yet, am going out today to hunt down an appropriate router. I've been transferring files using a CD-RW disc for the moment. I've been caught up in trying to cure a broken Mac Help, going nuts pulling preference files, then pulling the whole library, then adding stuff back one at a time in order to isolate the culprit (all this hassle on a brand new machine and latest OS, grrrr), but that's another story.

Thanks for all your help, as it involved not just following some advice, but the bonus of learning something that added to my storehouse of knowledge. Most valuable.

Joe