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beestonman - Jul 26, 2005 - 10:56 am
I wonder if you can give me some advice.
I am just about to try to set up a home wireless network linking the following:
• new iMac G5 running 10.4 with airport extreme card
• G4 PowerBook wth Airport card, running 10.3.9
• iMac G3 DV SE 500 running 9.2.2
I have a broadband connection with a cable modem.
I am new to networking but fairly competent with both OS9 and OSX.
Ideally I would like:
1. To have a secure network with all machines having broadband access.
2. To share a USB printer.
In may ways AirPort Express would seem a good way forward, in combination with an airport card (if I can find one at a reasonable price) or a wireless ethernet device (Belkin do a well reviewed one) for the iMac G3.
However in doing some research I realise that I will run into problems with this. I know that with AirPort Express the USB printer sharing (and possibly also password protection of the network) will not be viable if one of my machines is running 9.2.2 rather than 10.3+.
I am quite keen to maintain the OS9 system because it is so much quicker on the machine and the main user is very much more system 9 savvy.
My options seem to be the following (in order of preference). Each one has areas of uncertainty that I would appreciate any comments on.
a. Find another means of printer sharing and password protection apart from AirPort Express. (For example, purchasing a netgear wireless router, netgear (?wireless) USB printer server). My question about this is whether the netgear (or other) hardware will allow me to do what Airport Express won't with an OS9 computer on the network. In addition I have heard plenty of negatives about Belkin's USB wireless print server and wonder if this is part of a wider problem with wireless USB printer serving.
b. Buy Airport Express, get the iMac G5 and PowerBook to share one printer, and buy another printer for the iMac G3.
My question about this is whether I will be able to password protect the network or run into other network problems on Airport Express if I am running both 9 and X computers on it.
This solution might actually be cheaper and more reliable than a. if I could make the whole network secure on a mix of OS9 and OSX.
c. Buy Airport Express and Upgrade the iMac G3 to 10.3.x. or 10.4 (it has 768 RAM) which I think should be straightforward enough, though, as mentioned previously, I really would like to run the G3 in OS9.
If you have any experience or advice that you could give me this would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to fork out loads of cash on new gear and find it doesn't work or falls over all the time. I don't want to bang my head against a brick wall trying to persevere with OS9 if this is really not viable.
Many thanks.
Andy
I am just about to try to set up a home wireless network linking the following:
• new iMac G5 running 10.4 with airport extreme card
• G4 PowerBook wth Airport card, running 10.3.9
• iMac G3 DV SE 500 running 9.2.2
I have a broadband connection with a cable modem.
I am new to networking but fairly competent with both OS9 and OSX.
Ideally I would like:
1. To have a secure network with all machines having broadband access.
2. To share a USB printer.
In may ways AirPort Express would seem a good way forward, in combination with an airport card (if I can find one at a reasonable price) or a wireless ethernet device (Belkin do a well reviewed one) for the iMac G3.
However in doing some research I realise that I will run into problems with this. I know that with AirPort Express the USB printer sharing (and possibly also password protection of the network) will not be viable if one of my machines is running 9.2.2 rather than 10.3+.
I am quite keen to maintain the OS9 system because it is so much quicker on the machine and the main user is very much more system 9 savvy.
My options seem to be the following (in order of preference). Each one has areas of uncertainty that I would appreciate any comments on.
a. Find another means of printer sharing and password protection apart from AirPort Express. (For example, purchasing a netgear wireless router, netgear (?wireless) USB printer server). My question about this is whether the netgear (or other) hardware will allow me to do what Airport Express won't with an OS9 computer on the network. In addition I have heard plenty of negatives about Belkin's USB wireless print server and wonder if this is part of a wider problem with wireless USB printer serving.
b. Buy Airport Express, get the iMac G5 and PowerBook to share one printer, and buy another printer for the iMac G3.
My question about this is whether I will be able to password protect the network or run into other network problems on Airport Express if I am running both 9 and X computers on it.
This solution might actually be cheaper and more reliable than a. if I could make the whole network secure on a mix of OS9 and OSX.
c. Buy Airport Express and Upgrade the iMac G3 to 10.3.x. or 10.4 (it has 768 RAM) which I think should be straightforward enough, though, as mentioned previously, I really would like to run the G3 in OS9.
If you have any experience or advice that you could give me this would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to fork out loads of cash on new gear and find it doesn't work or falls over all the time. I don't want to bang my head against a brick wall trying to persevere with OS9 if this is really not viable.
Many thanks.
Andy
bobw - Jul 26, 2005 - 11:02 am
Hi Andy
A wireless router is all you need. I use a Netgear 814 and it works very well. You don't need a print server. Printer sharing is built into the OS X system. You can share to all computers as long as the printer is connected to an OS X machine.
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Bobw - Macosx.com Tech Support
A wireless router is all you need. I use a Netgear 814 and it works very well. You don't need a print server. Printer sharing is built into the OS X system. You can share to all computers as long as the printer is connected to an OS X machine.
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Bobw - Macosx.com Tech Support
beestonman - Jul 26, 2005 - 12:32 pm
Thanks Bob for such a quick response.
So as long as I keep the main machine on the others can share!
Am I right in thinking that there are OS9/OSX issues in setting up a secure network, or is this not really a difficulty.
Andy
So as long as I keep the main machine on the others can share!
Am I right in thinking that there are OS9/OSX issues in setting up a secure network, or is this not really a difficulty.
Andy
bobw - Jul 26, 2005 - 12:37 pm
Andy
Yes, as long as the machine that the printer is connected to, others can share.
On that machine, besides turning Printer Sharing on in OS X, you would also turn it on in the Classic enviroment. This Apple doc explains;
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=50576
As for security, you can use the router for MAC filtering so that only your Macs can connect.
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Bobw - Macosx.com Tech Support
Yes, as long as the machine that the printer is connected to, others can share.
On that machine, besides turning Printer Sharing on in OS X, you would also turn it on in the Classic enviroment. This Apple doc explains;
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=50576
As for security, you can use the router for MAC filtering so that only your Macs can connect.
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Bobw - Macosx.com Tech Support
beestonman - Jul 26, 2005 - 1:14 pm
Thanks Bob,
I guess this means that I need to keep classic running all the time. That's no problem as far as I can see. I can presumably make it a startup item. Or is there any way I can make classic start up when the OS9 computer comes online? Perhaps that't too smart!
I will get to it and see how it goes.
Andy
I guess this means that I need to keep classic running all the time. That's no problem as far as I can see. I can presumably make it a startup item. Or is there any way I can make classic start up when the OS9 computer comes online? Perhaps that't too smart!
I will get to it and see how it goes.
Andy
bobw - Jul 26, 2005 - 1:21 pm
Andy
No, you would have to keep Classic running all the time to share to the OS 9 machine.
In the Classic PreferencePane, you can set to start on Login.
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Bobw - Macosx.com Tech Support
No, you would have to keep Classic running all the time to share to the OS 9 machine.
In the Classic PreferencePane, you can set to start on Login.
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Bobw - Macosx.com Tech Support
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