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Leondis - Aug 16, 2005 - 6:55 pm
This morning I purchased a Mac Wallstreet G-3 at a pawn shop. I was able to get it cheap because no one could get by the locked password. The following message comes up when you boot up: "Important: You must turn off password protection before using this Power Book in SCSI disk mode." It gives a password hint but that is no use to anyone now.
I have both a Mac OS 9.04 iMac CD that I could use and also an OS 10.2 but I believe the hard drive is not large enough for OS 10 (only 2 Gig).
Any suggestions you may be able to offer would be appreciated.
I have both a Mac OS 9.04 iMac CD that I could use and also an OS 10.2 but I believe the hard drive is not large enough for OS 10 (only 2 Gig).
Any suggestions you may be able to offer would be appreciated.
Cheryl - Aug 16, 2005 - 9:49 pm
Len,
Not knowing What OS version that is on the computer is the troubling part. The password protection could be a program separate from the OS that is protecting the drive.
You do have a couple of options.
Try starting up with your OS 9 CD. Make sure you use the power adaptor before doing this. (start up by inserting CD, restart computer, immediately hold down c key).
Use Drive Setup to totally erase the drive and reformat it. When done, install OS 9.
Your other option is to replace the hard drive with a new one. Parts and take apart manuals can be found here:
http://www.pbfixit.com/cart/catalog/
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Cheryl
Not knowing What OS version that is on the computer is the troubling part. The password protection could be a program separate from the OS that is protecting the drive.
You do have a couple of options.
Try starting up with your OS 9 CD. Make sure you use the power adaptor before doing this. (start up by inserting CD, restart computer, immediately hold down c key).
Use Drive Setup to totally erase the drive and reformat it. When done, install OS 9.
Your other option is to replace the hard drive with a new one. Parts and take apart manuals can be found here:
http://www.pbfixit.com/cart/catalog/
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
Leondis - Aug 17, 2005 - 10:01 am
Cheryl:
Your advice was right on!
"Try starting up with your OS 9 CD. Make sure you use the power adaptor before doing this. (start up by inserting CD, restart computer, immediately hold down c key).
Use Drive Setup to totally erase the drive and reformat it. When done, install OS 9."
I did exactly what you recommended and the system is up and running without any problems. Thank you very much.
Now, if I could ask one or two more questions? I am not at all familiar with laptops although I have used a Mac desktop for years. I seem to be having trouble opening and closing the CD tray. I have managed so far but I press and often nothing happens. I keep pressing and finally the tray comes out. What am I doing wrong?
Also, what is the latest software I should be using with this particular laptop? I am using the iBook Software Restore version 9.0.4 and iBook Software Install version 9.0.4. Thus far I have only restored the system.
Your advice was right on!
"Try starting up with your OS 9 CD. Make sure you use the power adaptor before doing this. (start up by inserting CD, restart computer, immediately hold down c key).
Use Drive Setup to totally erase the drive and reformat it. When done, install OS 9."
I did exactly what you recommended and the system is up and running without any problems. Thank you very much.
Now, if I could ask one or two more questions? I am not at all familiar with laptops although I have used a Mac desktop for years. I seem to be having trouble opening and closing the CD tray. I have managed so far but I press and often nothing happens. I keep pressing and finally the tray comes out. What am I doing wrong?
Also, what is the latest software I should be using with this particular laptop? I am using the iBook Software Restore version 9.0.4 and iBook Software Install version 9.0.4. Thus far I have only restored the system.
Cheryl - Aug 17, 2005 - 10:38 am
Len,
I am glad that you have it up and running. You were very lucky that the iBook CDs worked on this baby. Usually a CD marked for a specific model will not work in a different model.
Your Wallstreet G3 can run OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) and it's updates to 10.2.8.
You have OS 9 installed, and you can update to 9.2.1 via Apple's download site or Software Update Control panel.
there is no combo update for OS 9, so you have to update to 9.1, then update to 9.2.1
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75288
Do not update to 9.2.2 unless you are installing OS X and want to keep OS 9 for Classic.
It supports 512 MB of RAM. It has 2 slots for PC100 144-pin SO-DIMM
The hard drive is an ATA. It is an older model as it does not have USB, or Firewire ports. You do have ADB (for older mouse), serial (for older printers) and an HDI-30 SCSI port as well as an ethernet port.
The button to release the CD tray is a bit finicky. Pressing it firmly will open it. My G3 laptop has the same problem. When you have a CD in the drive, just drag the CD to the trash to eject it.
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Cheryl
I am glad that you have it up and running. You were very lucky that the iBook CDs worked on this baby. Usually a CD marked for a specific model will not work in a different model.
Your Wallstreet G3 can run OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) and it's updates to 10.2.8.
You have OS 9 installed, and you can update to 9.2.1 via Apple's download site or Software Update Control panel.
there is no combo update for OS 9, so you have to update to 9.1, then update to 9.2.1
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75288
Do not update to 9.2.2 unless you are installing OS X and want to keep OS 9 for Classic.
It supports 512 MB of RAM. It has 2 slots for PC100 144-pin SO-DIMM
The hard drive is an ATA. It is an older model as it does not have USB, or Firewire ports. You do have ADB (for older mouse), serial (for older printers) and an HDI-30 SCSI port as well as an ethernet port.
The button to release the CD tray is a bit finicky. Pressing it firmly will open it. My G3 laptop has the same problem. When you have a CD in the drive, just drag the CD to the trash to eject it.
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Cheryl
Leondis - Aug 17, 2005 - 12:43 pm
Cheryl:
Your response was more than I had hoped for. Again, thank you. I can deal with the CD problem. Glad to know that it was not me alone having the problem.
Now, do you really think it wise to upgrade to Jaguar OS X 10.2? I have the install CDs. Do I need to upgrade any "firmware" and do I need to upgrade to 9.2.1 or 9.2.2 before I install Jaguar?
I have only a 2GB hard drive with nothing on it except the operating system and associated software. I have 96 Megs of physical memory (one 32meg stick and one 64 meg stick). I plan to keep a lean machine and will do little more than Word Processing and e-mail with the laptop. I have MS Word but will most likely use Apple Works to save disk space. What do I get from Jaguar that I can not get with Mac OS 9.1?
Today I signed up for DSL. Can I use DSL with the laptop using the ethernet port? I assume that I can do it without a modem installed.
I have a flock of old printers, a ADB mouse and other stuff I have been using with my Power Mac 9600 with a G-4 Sonic upgrade. I have lots of memory in the Power Mac. Is this the same memory that is in the Wallstreet II?
BTW, my Wallstreet has the following: 14.1 TFT/233MHz/512K/32MB/2GB HD/4MB video/CD/Modem, or so it says on the bottom.
Again, thank you for the very professional help.
Cheryl - Aug 17, 2005 - 1:10 pm
Len,
You need at least 128 Mb of memory in order to install OS X. With what you want to do on that powerbook, you are fine with OS 9.2.1 (the latest update for OS 9). AppleWorks is a fine word processor, so there is no need to install MS Word.
The memory sticks in your PowerMac will not fit the power book as the Power Book needs a low profile (smaller in height) to fit in the RAM slots.
You have a dialup modem, which you can use now until the DSL gets hooked up. When DSL is connected, all you need to do is connect an ethernet Cat 5 cable from the DSL modem to the ethernet port at the back of the power book. Then set up the Internet Control Panel (TCP/IP) to Ethernet and DHCP automatic. That is all you have to do. You might want to disable the modem once you have DSL so that does not try to connect on its own.
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Cheryl
You need at least 128 Mb of memory in order to install OS X. With what you want to do on that powerbook, you are fine with OS 9.2.1 (the latest update for OS 9). AppleWorks is a fine word processor, so there is no need to install MS Word.
The memory sticks in your PowerMac will not fit the power book as the Power Book needs a low profile (smaller in height) to fit in the RAM slots.
You have a dialup modem, which you can use now until the DSL gets hooked up. When DSL is connected, all you need to do is connect an ethernet Cat 5 cable from the DSL modem to the ethernet port at the back of the power book. Then set up the Internet Control Panel (TCP/IP) to Ethernet and DHCP automatic. That is all you have to do. You might want to disable the modem once you have DSL so that does not try to connect on its own.
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Leondis - Aug 17, 2005 - 1:34 pm
O.K. I will stay with OS 9 and updates for now.
I am imbarrassed to ask the next questions but here goes.
What is the slot on the left next to the telephone jack. It is too small for the type floppies I am use to seeing.
Also, if I do have (I am not sure) an internal modem, where does it hook into the telephone line. Is it to be connected on the left side where it says telephone? The connection on the back looks like a place for an external modem. Please do not ask me to read the book. I do not have one to read.
Sorry for the dumb questions.
I am imbarrassed to ask the next questions but here goes.
What is the slot on the left next to the telephone jack. It is too small for the type floppies I am use to seeing.
Also, if I do have (I am not sure) an internal modem, where does it hook into the telephone line. Is it to be connected on the left side where it says telephone? The connection on the back looks like a place for an external modem. Please do not ask me to read the book. I do not have one to read.
Sorry for the dumb questions.
Cheryl - Aug 17, 2005 - 2:32 pm
Len,
No question is a dumb one. It takes a while to learn a new piece of equipment.
The slot on the left - is for a Type III PC card (cardbus)
I found exactly what you need to help you.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Pow...UserManual.PDF
In that manual (which you can download) on page 16 has a picture and explanation of the ports in the back.
Where there is a picture of a telephone is the modem. That is where you plug in a phone cable, then connect it to a phone jack. There is a port in the back - where you say looks like for an external modem - is for models that did not have an internal modem installed. That same port is for a printer.
The one next to that is for a mouse or tablet. The port on the other side of the printer/external modem port is the ethernet port.
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Cheryl
No question is a dumb one. It takes a while to learn a new piece of equipment.
The slot on the left - is for a Type III PC card (cardbus)
I found exactly what you need to help you.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Pow...UserManual.PDF
In that manual (which you can download) on page 16 has a picture and explanation of the ports in the back.
Where there is a picture of a telephone is the modem. That is where you plug in a phone cable, then connect it to a phone jack. There is a port in the back - where you say looks like for an external modem - is for models that did not have an internal modem installed. That same port is for a printer.
The one next to that is for a mouse or tablet. The port on the other side of the printer/external modem port is the ethernet port.
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Cheryl
Leondis - Aug 19, 2005 - 4:30 pm
Cheryl:
O.K. I have read the user manual, well quite a bit of it and it helps a lot. Now, I still have a question about the modem. In the profile, I get the following:
Network overview
Modem
Name Protocol:
Version
Status: Modem in use, no further information can be gathered
Open Transport
Installed: Yes
Active: Yes
Version: 2.6.1
AppleTalk
Installed: Yes
Active: No
Version 2.6.1
Personal Web Sharing: is off
Multihoming is off
Netmask:
Default gateway address:
Domain:
Name server address:
Now, it does look like I have a modem installed (at least there is a telephone cable plug in on the left side). Before I go to the expense of trying to buy another internal modem I want to be sure I have not overlooked something, software needed, setting or something else. If the modem is in use, there must be one there. How can I reset the modem?
O.K. I have read the user manual, well quite a bit of it and it helps a lot. Now, I still have a question about the modem. In the profile, I get the following:
Network overview
Modem
Name Protocol:
Version
Status: Modem in use, no further information can be gathered
Open Transport
Installed: Yes
Active: Yes
Version: 2.6.1
AppleTalk
Installed: Yes
Active: No
Version 2.6.1
Personal Web Sharing: is off
Multihoming is off
Netmask:
Default gateway address:
Domain:
Name server address:
Now, it does look like I have a modem installed (at least there is a telephone cable plug in on the left side). Before I go to the expense of trying to buy another internal modem I want to be sure I have not overlooked something, software needed, setting or something else. If the modem is in use, there must be one there. How can I reset the modem?
Cheryl - Aug 19, 2005 - 4:59 pm
Len,
First, you need to trash the modem preference file. Go to Hard Drive>system folder>Preferences. If you go to the view menu and select by list, you will find Modem Preference easily. Empty the trash.
Then, set up the modem. When you follow these instructions, you will be able to set up the modem to dial up to your ISP.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106869
Following these instructions should reset the modem to the correct settings.
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Cheryl
First, you need to trash the modem preference file. Go to Hard Drive>system folder>Preferences. If you go to the view menu and select by list, you will find Modem Preference easily. Empty the trash.
Then, set up the modem. When you follow these instructions, you will be able to set up the modem to dial up to your ISP.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106869
Following these instructions should reset the modem to the correct settings.
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
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