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claudiaballard@ - Mar 7, 2006 - 1:13 am

i have two macs, one G4, one G5, both running 10.3.9.
on both macs, on each photoshopCS program, the font selection only goes through the Ss. the last 7 categories of fonts (t-Z) do not appear. they appear in word, font book, indesign, final cut pro and live type. i'm non plused. could someone help me to figure out why they don't appear in Photoshop?
thank you.

claudia

Zadig - Mar 7, 2006 - 4:50 am

Hi Claudia

there are quite a few discussions on web about an 'unacknowledged font limit' in Photoshop. How many fonts do you have active? It maybe that you have more active than Photoshop can handle. Use a font manager (Font Book is part of OSX)to activate just the fonts you need.

Let me know if this helps

Regards
Andy

claudiaballard@ - Mar 7, 2006 - 10:52 am

Hi Andy,

First. THANK YOU for responding to my inquiry.

I'm a newbie with font book and organizing fonts. i simply took for granted that fonts just show up in photoshop, dahhhh. and they did for a while. that's before i started downloading new ones. and i would just download free fonts i liked or bought from various websites never knowing where they were going.

i'd say i have about 600 to 800 fonts right now.

i've been reading your website for the last couple of days about some of the challenges people have with fonts. people were referring to fonts they had downloaded and placed in some font folder, i guess in three places? and it wasn't showing up in the programs where they wanted it.

my challenge is that everything shows up till it gets to the letter S then everything after that doesn't so it's a whole block that doesn't show up. and it happened rather suddenly, i think, after downloading some new fonts some time ago. i didn't notice it until one day i wanted Zapino for a project i was working on, and it wasn't there.

i've read the pros and cons about some font managers from your website, and i'm not sure i could handle the problems that may arise if i should get into them with certain font organizers and all of a sudden none of my fonts show up. one person said to the questioner, "delete all your fonts from the folders" but then said there are fonts that you shouldn't delete and began to name a few and went on about the places you needed to delete them and on an on...i got overwhelmed at that point.

i did learn from your website discussion group how to download a font into font book. i downloaded from a new cd i've been wanting to ad to my collection (but didn't know how 'cause it's my first cd i bought of fonts) from the W category, then i checked photoshop to see if it was reading it...nope. i didn't restart the computer after downloading it though. i will after i send this email to you and see if that works.

can i actually access a font from font book when i am in photoshop?



thanks again andy,

claudia

Zadig - Mar 7, 2006 - 12:41 pm

Hi Claudia

Here is a good tutorial on how to use osx Font Book...

http://www.apple.com/pro/training/fonts/index.html

Be careful about downloading a lot of free fonts they are not always of the best quality and can sometimes cause problems with the system. If ever you get startup problems on thing to suspect is a bad font.

Its worth taking the time to understand the different places that fonts can live on the system. If you want help with this let me know.

For now its worth learning how to use font book and disable the fonts you aren't immediatly using. Having fewer fonts enabled should make the machine feel a little snapier too.

If you need any more help let me know.

Andy

claudiaballard@ - Mar 7, 2006 - 3:11 pm

thanks andy.

i will read the tutorial right away.

by the way, i downloaded one font that i took off the new cd of fonts i just bought, restarted the computer and it showed up in photoshop. it's name started with A, but i still can't get any fonts to appear after the letter S.

i wonder if i will have to take everything off (all fonts) and begin again. or would i need only to take off the fonts after the letter S?

I will be a LOT more careful about what i down load now, 'cause if you say it might be a bad font that is causing the whole block of fonts after S not showing up, i really don't know what font is causing that problem, right? how would i know? is there a way to check each font after S?

thanks so much for your help.

claudia

Zadig - Mar 8, 2006 - 3:38 am

Claudia

Use font book to disable the fonts that you are not going to use in order to reduce the number of fonts that photoshop has to load. I forgot to ask you how much RAM do you have in each machine/

Andy

claudiaballard@ - Mar 8, 2006 - 10:51 am

Hi Andy,

I've got 1.25 GB SDRAM on the G4 and 1 GB DDR SDRAM on the G5.

i'm going to work today, as you suggested, on disabling fonts in the font book. i started reading the material you sent the other day. and i will go back to the discussion group and look up "unacknowledged font limit in photoshop". sounds like that might be of help too. but then why did photoshop load the new font in the A category if it was over it's limit? hummmmmmmmmmm.

i'll let you know what happens after i try a few things you suggested.

(:

claudia

Zadig - Mar 8, 2006 - 1:02 pm

Hi

here is a link to discussions on the Adobe forum

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/w....3@.3bbdcf0b/7

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/w...U1.3@.3bb7ea48

as for loading the A font when it was over its limit Photoshop may just simply be working through its font list A-Z and when it reaches a limit stops loading fonts (but don't quote me)

Andy

Zadig - Mar 13, 2006 - 4:46 am

Hi Claudia

Have you had any success sorting out the fonts for Photoshop?

Andy

claudiaballard@ - Mar 13, 2006 - 11:04 am

Hi Andy,

it's funny you should ask at this time. i've been away for the weekend. but before i left i was in the middle of the material you sent on font book. (am learning how to use it now from that article. thank you) and taking off ,one by one, fonts i will probably never use and disabling the other fonts i want but will not need now. the process was very, very slow and i only got to the letter C before i had to leave. (mainly because the computer was so slow)

I'm back now from SF and i had one thing to do in photoshop before i returned to my task of clearing out fonts and organizing them better, and i noticed, again, because this has been happening ever since i let my business partner use my computer a couple of weeks ago while i was in NY, that the computer was running slow again.

i decided to run disk permissions (i do this about every month because i have really big files and it seems to help clean up things and after i run the utilities program it seams the computer likes that and runs more smoothly).
while in the process of running disk permissions, i did my work i had to do in photoshop and sent the file out through my mail program, a box popped up and said that the disk utility got disconnect and that i should relaunch the program. i tried but another box came up that told me that " Quitting in the middle of some operations can leave a disk non-operational."

i'm now in a quandry since this has NEVER happen to me.

has this ever happened to you? since you told me that a funky font could do funny things to your computer, i was wondering....do you think it was because i was working with a design in photoshop with fonts that THAT might have messed up the disk permissions utility?

should i not have been working in a program while running " reparing disk permissions"?

do you think i WILL or might render my disk in-operational if i restart my computer? might i lose all my programs and files if i shut the computer off in the middle of the utility disk repair operation?

i am in the process of taking all the files off that i can and putting them on to another HD..i don't know where some of the files are kept like entourage, but am trying to do my best.

this has never happened, so it's new ground for me.


thanks andy.

claudia

Zadig - Mar 13, 2006 - 11:57 am

Hi Claudia

Once you have a back up of you disk just run disk utility again.

As for your fonts it would be quicker to remove the fonts from the various font directories manually and keep them in a separate folder on your hard drive, just a suggestion you could call it "All Fonts". (Don't remove the fonts from the System/Fonts folder). Then you can use Font Book to install the ones you need rather than trying to remove the ones you don't.

Here is a link which shows you where the various places fonts can be found....

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106417


keep in touch, let me know how its goes.

Andy

claudiaballard@ - Mar 18, 2006 - 2:25 pm

Hi Andy,

was out of town again. but now that i'm back.....

I've done as you suggested; backed up as much data as i know how to do, forced quit disk utility, created an "ALL Fonts" folder and went to the link you gave me that showed where the fonts were - took out all from "my" font library and other places i noticed i had copies and copies of the same fonts (did not remove any from the systems library) and placed in the new "all Fonts" folder.

My photoshop fonts are now working (YEA) all the way to Z and beyond. i"ll go over the fonts in my "All Fonts" folder utilizing font book this time- will go back to the site you gave me on using FONT BOOK. I never took the time to learn that. thanks.

I plan on reading the other links to discussions on the Adobe forum you gave me too. I'm going out of town for 10 days and when i return will enjoy getting to know my font system better with all the things you have suggested to read.

thank you for your help. i really appreciate it.
i think i can take it from here.
i'm really grateful i found this site and you guys are so willing to help.

happy days ahead...

claudia

Zadig - Mar 18, 2006 - 3:53 pm

Claudia

no problem, glad things are working for you. Sorry if I was a bit long winded with the solutions.

Come back if you need anything more.

Andy