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meites - Mar 11, 2006 - 8:03 pm

Hi, new to MAC OS, and can't seem to do two things...
First; I can't seem to access the mac accross my network. I find the computer, but it asks for a log in and password which I can't figure out where that would be. (sounds silly). The system does ask for a password when instaling programs etc., but no combinaton therin works.

2nd question; I have a printer connected to one of the PCs on the network, I have no problem printing from any of the PC's, but when it comes to the mac, it doesn't find the printer? I went to the manufacterers website to download the driver, installed it (which I can't find) and still nothing.

Maybe a third question; is there anyway to import an outlook PST file to the mail progam?

Thanks

stottm - Mar 11, 2006 - 9:05 pm

First Answer:

The login password for Windows computers is found under System Preferences -> Sharing -> Windows Sharing -> Enable Accounts. Check the Mac OS X user account and type it's password (the one you use for modifying or installing software).

You can also use an FTP Server on Mac OSX - A good free Windows FTP client is available at http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/

In addition, you can use ssh on the Mac and login to a console from a Windows computer using Putty a free Windows ssh client - http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

Plus you can install Ultra VNC on a Windows PC and remote control it from the Mac using Chicken of the VNC. Or you can install Microsoft Remote Desktop client on the Mac to control WinXP Pro - http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherpr...edesktopclient

- http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/
- http://sourceforge.net/projects/cotvnc/

2nd Answer:

You didn't mention the printer manufacturer, make nor model. Need that to find out more information.

However you can browse printers in the same Windows Workgroup or Domain. System Preferences -> Print & Fax -> + button -> More Printers -> Windows Printing - Defaults to "Workgroup". Check the Windows computers to see if they are all in the same workgroup or domain (they should be). Then go to the Applications Folder -> Utilities Folder -> Directory Access - click the lock and type your password. Double-click the SMB/CIFS entry and type in the same workgroup name you have on the other Windows computers and input the WINS server if you have one (corporate networks used for browsing). Double-click the Active Directory if your Windows computers are on a Win2k3 Active Directory Domain - You can have your Mac join the domain. Unless you are running your own Win2k3 domain at home, I would suggest getting permission from your companies IT staff first.

3rd Answer:

Microsoft has a PST Import tool for their Microsoft Office 2004 (Mac) Entourage email program. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

But getting it into Mail is going to require jumping through some hoops. i.e. exporting and importing and it's not easy. But if you can get it into Entourage you may like that better then Mail since it's closer to Outlook.

meites - Mar 12, 2006 - 7:39 am

Hi, thanks...
#1, I have checked that feild, and it matches the password the PC is asking for, and still won't let me in. Although in the PC it force\OFFICE_PC in front of the PC. (all on my home network). I did however put in the account name as it appeared, and the password I have been using.

#2) Did all this, but I think the problem actually is #1, but going the other way. My PC has no log in or password, but the mac is forcing me to put one in? (no other PC's need one). So I get to the workgroup, find the printer and it vanishes after it asks for the non existant password... (and log in)

#3) I'll install office, a no brainer.... hopefully ms won't have a problem with the PC and MAC export and import.

Thanks again.

meites - Mar 12, 2006 - 8:13 am

sorry, one more thing... you asked which printer; samsung multifunction
scx-4521f

stottm - Mar 12, 2006 - 8:22 am

Did you assign the workgroup "OFFICE_PC" to the Mac? Try logging in using OFFICE_PC\username on the username line and then type the password.

WinXP computers generally require an account with a password to connect. WinXP will reject any account trying to login without a password. You may have passwords saved on each Windows computer and they are automatically logging in when you boot them up and when they go to connect to the printer they are actually passing a user id and password to the computer with the shared printer.

Try adding the Mac id/pw to the computer with the printer. Right-Click My Computer, then left-click Manage and click on Local Users and Groups. Double-click Users. Right-click on the right hand side and add a new user. Use the Apples ID/PW. Set the password to never expire and uncheck the "User must change password at first logon". Check the permissions on the pinter share and add the account if the others are there or just leave it as EVERYONE if that is the only thing listed. Then try connecting to the printer again. Login with the ID/PW and see if you can add the printer to the Mac. There should be a checkbox on the login prompt to add the account to the Apple Keychain. This means the Mac will automatically login to the printer and it will remember it.

stottm - Mar 12, 2006 - 8:30 am

Apples got an excellent doc here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301397

Covers how to add a stubborn Windows printer

meites - Mar 12, 2006 - 8:36 am

Well Done !!!! works like a charm. Great advise....
Now... phase two, let me fiddle with the Mac access.... (still remains elusive)

stottm - Mar 12, 2006 - 9:00 am

FYI you can use the same smb:// technique to access the Windows PC shares from the Mac Finder. Apple key + K while Finder is selected (click desktop) will give you the Connect to Server dialog box.

You can then drag the mounted volume to the System Preferences -> Accounts -> Login Items and when you login to the Mac it will automatically mount the disk volume going to a Windows PC.

Going the other way from the Windows computer to the Mac generally requires you needing to enter the WORKGOUP, USERID, and PASSWORD. It must be an account on the Mac. Double-check you setup the Workgroup on the Mac to match the Windows computers. Applications/Utilities/Directory Access. Unlock the screen by clicking the gold lock and authenticating. Then Double-click the SMB/CIFS entry and set the same workgroup as the PC's.

I haven't done this for a while as I only have one PC left after my Mac's kept multiplying! ;-) I'll go test it out and see if I can get to work from my lonely WinXP box.

stottm - Mar 12, 2006 - 9:13 am

The key is the Workgroup. Mine is called HOME. I added the workgroup to the Mac and ensured Windows Sharing is turned on and I have my user account password entered. I was then able to instantly browse the Mac via "View Workgroup Computers" under My Network Places on WinXP. Then double-clicked the Mac in the list of workgroup computers. I entered my username and password both with and without HOME\ in front of the username. It's working perfectly. I can see my home directory on the Mac and map it as a network drive.

meites - Mar 12, 2006 - 9:21 am

Hey, I've been there, but seem to get stuck in the log in name and password place. No problem finding the mac on the network, its the accesss.

stottm - Mar 12, 2006 - 9:52 am

Go to System Preferences and Accounts - Change your password. You might not have one set. Go to System Preferences and Sharing - click Enable Accounts under Windows Sharing and set the same password. If it's already enabled try unchecking the On checkbox under the accounts button and re-type the admin password. Then turn it back on again. Go to System Preferences and Security check Disable automatic login.

Try it again from the Windows PC. I am thinking you need to tighten security on the Mac to allow connections from PC's. When you enable the Windows Sharing there is a warning about the password being stored in a less secure manner.

Also go to the Firewall settings under System Preferences and Sharing then click the Advanced button. Uncheck the Block UDP Traffic. That might be stopping it from working. The Stealth option is OK but the Block UDP Traffic is probably blocking the communications. Windows may use UDP when it tries to connect. (I'm not sure but it won't hurt anything).

Try rebooting both the Windows computer and the Mac.