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charles1 - Nov 18, 2005 - 3:10 pm
I don't even know where to start. I could strangle the person who thought of this. Why oh why can't OSX just let me set something and not interfere over and over. Passwords are fine. No problem with typing a few passwords when I'm changing stuff. I realize their purpose. But Prvileges are a pain in the butt and one of the worst things about OSX I can think of. I have tried to set them (in the Get Info area) but obviously OSX is not listening to me.
ishan - Nov 18, 2005 - 4:12 pm
Are you working as an "administrator" or an "user?" Normally, as an administrator, you have privileges to do just about anything, which is dangerous. Can you give me an example of a specific situation where privileges have been a problem; maybe I can be more helpful then.
On a side note, OS X runs a modified UNIX. Privileges are part of UNIX, but that's one of the major reasons you don't have to worry about viruses, Trojans, etc., at least not yet. So there's a bright side as well.
Anyway, please send me a specific example where this is becoming an annoying issue and I'll try to sort it out with you. Thanks.
On a side note, OS X runs a modified UNIX. Privileges are part of UNIX, but that's one of the major reasons you don't have to worry about viruses, Trojans, etc., at least not yet. So there's a bright side as well.
Anyway, please send me a specific example where this is becoming an annoying issue and I'll try to sort it out with you. Thanks.
charles1 - Nov 21, 2005 - 2:08 am
I'm an Administrator. Always have been, always will. Nobody uses my machine but me. Why would it be dangerous if I have "supreme" privileges? After all, I'm the only one here.
Examples......Often when I'm renaming one of my files, or especially moving something. It says no - and that's that. I checked and it looks ok.
I wouldn't mind about the privileges if they worked. A privilege goes both ways - accepts or denies. This often only denies. i think that's called broken. Having a password that needs to be typed in frequently is a small price to pay for virus free computing. Only an idiot has some huge, hard to type password. I learned long ago that by having an easy to type password for my left hand allows my right hand to sit on the mouse. Pure logic. And you can still have a complex one handed password.
Examples......Often when I'm renaming one of my files, or especially moving something. It says no - and that's that. I checked and it looks ok.
I wouldn't mind about the privileges if they worked. A privilege goes both ways - accepts or denies. This often only denies. i think that's called broken. Having a password that needs to be typed in frequently is a small price to pay for virus free computing. Only an idiot has some huge, hard to type password. I learned long ago that by having an easy to type password for my left hand allows my right hand to sit on the mouse. Pure logic. And you can still have a complex one handed password.
ishan - Nov 21, 2005 - 8:53 am
I run as administrator as well, and I'm not saying that necessarily a bad thing. But if you know Unix (but not enough Unix), a single typo in an Unix command can erase your hard drive. So if you don't do a lot of work in the command line, administrator is fine.
Have you repaired permissions recently? If not, give that a try. If that doesn't work, I agree that something is wrong with your OS and perhaps a reinstall wouldn't be a bad idea. I have no problems moving files, etc. but I have the same privileges on all my attached drives.
Have you repaired permissions recently? If not, give that a try. If that doesn't work, I agree that something is wrong with your OS and perhaps a reinstall wouldn't be a bad idea. I have no problems moving files, etc. but I have the same privileges on all my attached drives.
charles1 - Nov 21, 2005 - 11:18 am
I sometimes you the killall command in Terminal (though it never works with the DVD player or some other programs). Am I then in Unix? Other than that, I wouldn't know Unix if it tapped me on the shoulder.
By "repairing permissions" do you mean click Get Info on a hard drive partition, then see if everything is Read and Write at the bottom?
I'm in the process of reinstalling on another hard drive. There are too many things I may have messed up on this one.
By "repairing permissions" do you mean click Get Info on a hard drive partition, then see if everything is Read and Write at the bottom?
I'm in the process of reinstalling on another hard drive. There are too many things I may have messed up on this one.
ishan - Nov 21, 2005 - 3:56 pm
By "repair permissions" I mean using Disk Utility to perform that function. Your idea–of installing "fresh"–is a good one, though.
charles1 - Nov 21, 2005 - 4:54 pm
Arrrgh.......I forgot about Disk Utility. Its repairing a whole whack of stuff. It took about 2 minutes. It said
User differs on ., should be 0, owner is 501
Permissions differ on ., should be drwxrwxr-t , they are drwxrwxrwx
Owner and group corrected on .
Permissions corrected on .
The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume
Does this make any sense to you?
User differs on ., should be 0, owner is 501
Permissions differ on ., should be drwxrwxr-t , they are drwxrwxrwx
Owner and group corrected on .
Permissions corrected on .
The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume
Does this make any sense to you?
ishan - Nov 21, 2005 - 5:47 pm
Yes. Your boot drive had privileges incorrectly set; I don't really want to go into details, because my carpal tunnel is acting up. Anyway, glad you ran it; run it again, so that it finds no othe problems.
HTH.
HTH.
charles1 - Nov 21, 2005 - 7:59 pm
How often should I run it?
Can it be set to run automatically?
Is your CT more aggravated by the mouse or keyboard?
Mine vanished (admiteddly it was very mild) within 2 days of moving to a split ergo type keyboard. I've used a trackball for years, which I think helps too.
Sometimes I think you're the only person there!
Can it be set to run automatically?
Is your CT more aggravated by the mouse or keyboard?
Mine vanished (admiteddly it was very mild) within 2 days of moving to a split ergo type keyboard. I've used a trackball for years, which I think helps too.
Sometimes I think you're the only person there!
ishan - Nov 21, 2005 - 9:08 pm
Carpal tunnel is aggravated by kbd; I use trackball also.
Anyway, you can use an Applescript or Automator to run Disk Utility periodically, but that's a bit obsessive/compulsive. I run a lot of alpha/beta system software, so I do it often, but once a month and certainly after system software updates is plenty.
Have a good night...and a safe and happy Thanksgiving!
Anyway, you can use an Applescript or Automator to run Disk Utility periodically, but that's a bit obsessive/compulsive. I run a lot of alpha/beta system software, so I do it often, but once a month and certainly after system software updates is plenty.
Have a good night...and a safe and happy Thanksgiving!
charles1 - Nov 22, 2005 - 10:55 am
Yes - Applescrip is too advanced for me now. In a few months, hopefully I'll master it or start to learn it. There's just so many programs to learn.
I hope you've tried split keyboards. I find the MS split keyboards wonderful (their new Ergonomic 4000 is getting rave reviews) and other people swear by the Kinesis. On Ebay they are not too expensive. The Fingerworks have become collector's items with skyrocketting prices so they are only in the realm of millionaires. Who else would spend almost a grand on a keyboard?
I hope you've tried split keyboards. I find the MS split keyboards wonderful (their new Ergonomic 4000 is getting rave reviews) and other people swear by the Kinesis. On Ebay they are not too expensive. The Fingerworks have become collector's items with skyrocketting prices so they are only in the realm of millionaires. Who else would spend almost a grand on a keyboard?
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