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RobinS - Jun 27, 2006 - 4:35 pm
Using Retrospect 6 on latest OS X.
I want to back up certain files from hard drive A to hard drive B.
If something is not on the original that is on the backup, that should be deleted. If something has a newer date on the original, that should be replaced. Everything else should be ignored.
Sounds simple.
You would think that to back up something you need a source and a destination. I can't imagine most people backing up every single file in a folder(s). Yet I can't seem to find a way to pick which files to backup.
I would have thought most logical solutions would involve using commands that are commonly used on Apple software. Hold down the Command key and click which files to highlight, etc. But no. Its got to be different.
Am I missing something or is this yet another example of the inconsistancy of Apple compatible software?
Can I use Path Finder or Finder to do this somehow?
I want to back up certain files from hard drive A to hard drive B.
If something is not on the original that is on the backup, that should be deleted. If something has a newer date on the original, that should be replaced. Everything else should be ignored.
Sounds simple.
You would think that to back up something you need a source and a destination. I can't imagine most people backing up every single file in a folder(s). Yet I can't seem to find a way to pick which files to backup.
I would have thought most logical solutions would involve using commands that are commonly used on Apple software. Hold down the Command key and click which files to highlight, etc. But no. Its got to be different.
Am I missing something or is this yet another example of the inconsistancy of Apple compatible software?
Can I use Path Finder or Finder to do this somehow?
skapp - Jun 27, 2006 - 7:28 pm
Doing full versus incremental backups is explained in Retrospect's User Manual and Help. Try reading it so you can learn how to use browsers, choose between full and incremental backups, how to do bootable backups, etc. That's what documentation is for.
RobinS - Jun 28, 2006 - 1:22 pm
Well I did browse it and without spending an hour reading every word, couldn't find anything that relates to my question posted yesterday to your fine help website.
If you don't know, its ok to repool the question. If you do, perhaps you might be able to direct me to the area of Retrospect Help that pertains to choosing specific multiple files in folders for backup. It seems to only want to pick one file or folder at a time. I have hundreds. Some need to be backed up, and some don't. Hence the question. I tried Silverkeeper and I think it worked. But since Retrospect is rated so highly by so many, I thought it might be advisable to use it. Since my backup hard drive is stored off site and is only used every few days, I guess automated functions would't apply to me.
If you don't know, its ok to repool the question. If you do, perhaps you might be able to direct me to the area of Retrospect Help that pertains to choosing specific multiple files in folders for backup. It seems to only want to pick one file or folder at a time. I have hundreds. Some need to be backed up, and some don't. Hence the question. I tried Silverkeeper and I think it worked. But since Retrospect is rated so highly by so many, I thought it might be advisable to use it. Since my backup hard drive is stored off site and is only used every few days, I guess automated functions would't apply to me.
skapp - Jun 28, 2006 - 2:55 pm
I haven't used Retrospect in quite some time so my memory is hazy. However, you want to start by selecting an Incremental Backup (not a full backup.) You then need to open a file browser on the source volume. Selectively check only the files/folders you want to backup. Do the backup. If want to backup all changed files and not select specific files and/or folders, then once you set up for an incremental backup and choose the source and destination all you need do is hit the Backup button. Incremental backups automatically replace only changed files since the previous backup. Of course this assumes that you have done one Full backup already.
I'm sorry if the above is somewhat sketchy, but you should be able to figure out the precise things given the general outline I've given you.
I'm sorry if the above is somewhat sketchy, but you should be able to figure out the precise things given the general outline I've given you.
RobinS - Jun 28, 2006 - 4:59 pm
There is nothing called Incremental Backup on my version 6. And it won't let me select more than 1 file at a time. I can't understand how anyone could design something like this. Maybe I'm a little thick today. But it doesn't follow normal file conventions like:
Shift+arrow buttons highlights many files/folders,
Command+files/folders highlights specific files/folders.
Its just so stupid when software designers refuse to abide by conventions. Please tell me I've missed something. I'd love to make sense of this program.
Doesn't Apple control or license stuff? Doesn't it have to say Yea or Nay to new software? Judging from how this looks, maybe not. Then again, there are so many inconsistancies in Apple programs, they probably couldn't care less..........lol.
Shift+arrow buttons highlights many files/folders,
Command+files/folders highlights specific files/folders.
Its just so stupid when software designers refuse to abide by conventions. Please tell me I've missed something. I'd love to make sense of this program.
Doesn't Apple control or license stuff? Doesn't it have to say Yea or Nay to new software? Judging from how this looks, maybe not. Then again, there are so many inconsistancies in Apple programs, they probably couldn't care less..........lol.
skapp - Jun 28, 2006 - 8:23 pm
I think you need to work more with the Retrospect documentation. Most of this stuff is easy. I ran Retrospect for several years and never opened the book once. I think you also need to learn a little more about Macs and OS X. Extended select is done by holding the COMMAND key down and making selections by clicking with the mouse. A sequential extended selection is done holding down the SHIFT key. Been like this with Mac operating system since 1984.
Maybe if you took a little more time to learn you'd spend a little less time complaining and looking for help.
Maybe if you took a little more time to learn you'd spend a little less time complaining and looking for help.
RobinS - Jun 28, 2006 - 9:05 pm
Skapp, you're not addressing my points.
> There is nothing called Incremental Backup on my version 6.
What version are you using?
> And it won't let me select more than 1 file at a time.
When I go into subfolders it won't allow me to select more than 1 file in a folder. Convention is to use Command and click at the files you want. If they're together Shift and the arrow keys highlights them. Neither works.
> Extended select is done by holding the COMMAND key down and making selections by clicking with the mouse. A sequential extended selection is done holding down the SHIFT key. Been like this with Mac operating system since 1984.
Yes I've mentioned that before. My point is Retrospect does not follow this convention. Maybe there is something wrong with my version?
> There is nothing called Incremental Backup on my version 6.
What version are you using?
> And it won't let me select more than 1 file at a time.
When I go into subfolders it won't allow me to select more than 1 file in a folder. Convention is to use Command and click at the files you want. If they're together Shift and the arrow keys highlights them. Neither works.
> Extended select is done by holding the COMMAND key down and making selections by clicking with the mouse. A sequential extended selection is done holding down the SHIFT key. Been like this with Mac operating system since 1984.
Yes I've mentioned that before. My point is Retrospect does not follow this convention. Maybe there is something wrong with my version?
skapp - Jun 28, 2006 - 9:39 pm
As I said it's been a while since I used Retrospect. You can do a full backup and a regular backup, the latter is the incremental I believe. You'll need to read the manual or help for specifics. My memory is not that good.
RobinS - Jun 28, 2006 - 9:44 pm
I'll repost. I don't want to give up on this yet.
Thanks so far!
Thanks so far!
skapp - Jun 28, 2006 - 9:53 pm
I'll reopen it for you.
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