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~obey - Mar 28, 2005 - 11:46 am
I have a G4 that has two harddrives. The first one is a factory installed 10GB HD. The second one is an aftermarket 80GB drive with two partitions that I installed and formatted. The second harddrive (80GB, that has my OS on it, 10.2.8) won't start up. I finally got the computer to start up using an old OS9 startup disk. For whatever reason, the second HD won't recognize the second partition (which has my OSX installed on it and ALL of my files which i cannot lose)and wants me to reformat the partition. I don't want to reformat that partition because I'll lose all my files.
Any ideas/suggestions? I did reinstall OS9 back on to my smaller 10GB hard drive so i could atleast get the computer to start up...but the second partition (of the 80gb hd)is still not coming up and the computer is asking me to reformat that partition.
All that said...the first partition of the 80gb drive is recognized and works fine...although it has absolutely no information on it.
COMPUTER SPECS:
g4: 450 mhz
768 ram
10gb hard drive (factory)
80gb hard drive (aftermarket: two partitions)
OSX 10.2.8 (with OS9 currently on 10gb drive so i can start up)
Thanks for any input.
Any ideas/suggestions? I did reinstall OS9 back on to my smaller 10GB hard drive so i could atleast get the computer to start up...but the second partition (of the 80gb hd)is still not coming up and the computer is asking me to reformat that partition.
All that said...the first partition of the 80gb drive is recognized and works fine...although it has absolutely no information on it.
COMPUTER SPECS:
g4: 450 mhz
768 ram
10gb hard drive (factory)
80gb hard drive (aftermarket: two partitions)
OSX 10.2.8 (with OS9 currently on 10gb drive so i can start up)
Thanks for any input.
Cheryl - Mar 28, 2005 - 8:41 pm
Michael,
My name is Cheryl and I will be assisting you. First, I want to make sure I understand your set up.
Two hard drives -
First hard drive - What OS version?
second hard drive -80 GB partitioned in two.
second partition has OS X.
What OS is on the first partition?
How large are each of the partitions?
The general rule is to have OS X on the first partition and make sure it as at least 8 GB on it.
You need to back up your files on that second partition. You can do this with Carbon Copy Cloner and put them on a CD if you have a Super Drive CD/DVD or external CD burner.
Please let me know the answers to my questions so I can help you.
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Cheryl
My name is Cheryl and I will be assisting you. First, I want to make sure I understand your set up.
Two hard drives -
First hard drive - What OS version?
second hard drive -80 GB partitioned in two.
second partition has OS X.
What OS is on the first partition?
How large are each of the partitions?
The general rule is to have OS X on the first partition and make sure it as at least 8 GB on it.
You need to back up your files on that second partition. You can do this with Carbon Copy Cloner and put them on a CD if you have a Super Drive CD/DVD or external CD burner.
Please let me know the answers to my questions so I can help you.
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
~obey - Mar 29, 2005 - 8:06 am
Since I wrote in I have installed 10.2 on the First HD. I'm still not getting the second partition of the second HD to mount. I ran TechTool Pro 4.0.1 last night. It said that the second drive has "invalid headers (-9007)" and reports an error for that drive.
To answer your questions (to better understand my setup):
-First HD (factory): OSX 10.2 (10gb drive)
-Second HD (aftermarket, installed as a slave drive to the master HD): Two Partions each with 40gb. OSX 10.2.8 is installed on this drive (first partition). No other OS (other than an old OS 9.2.8) is installed on the HD.
I will backup all data that I can off the second drives partition (the one that is mounting). Thank you for helping me. I will wait to hear back from you.
Michael
To answer your questions (to better understand my setup):
-First HD (factory): OSX 10.2 (10gb drive)
-Second HD (aftermarket, installed as a slave drive to the master HD): Two Partions each with 40gb. OSX 10.2.8 is installed on this drive (first partition). No other OS (other than an old OS 9.2.8) is installed on the HD.
I will backup all data that I can off the second drives partition (the one that is mounting). Thank you for helping me. I will wait to hear back from you.
Michael
Cheryl - Mar 29, 2005 - 4:31 pm
Michael,
Was Tech Tool Pro able to fix the problem? The error 'Invalid headers' means that there is a file on a small section of the hard drive partition that is corrupt and not reading properly. It is obvious that this file is a very important part of the OS.
The only way I know of to correct this problem is to Erase the entire drive, format it and then install.
Make sure you back up all your important files. Then insert the OS X CD, restart the computer and immediately hold down the C key. When You see the installer screen, release the c key. Do not click on the installer screen.
Instead, go to the Installer Menu and select Disk Utility. Now when that opens you want to select the second hard drive. What you will see is:
1st icon - First Hard Drive - your master original drive
2nd icon - The name of your hard drive - master
3rd icon - your second hard drive
4th icon - first partition
5th icon - second partition - maybe.
You want to click on the 3rd icon, then select the Erase tab. Erase the entire drive. You will get a warning, click on okay.
When done, click on partition. Here is where you can partition the drive to 40 GB & 40 GB. Make sure you have Install Mac OS 9 disk drivers selected under Options. You want to format it using Mac OS Extended, and you can name the partitions. (click on the first partition - type in your choice of name, click on second partition, type in name).
Click on okay.
When done, you now can install the OS. Quit Disk Utility and click on the Installer Screen to begin the installation. - Make sure you select the first partition drive to install.
You now should be computing smoothly after your install.
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
Was Tech Tool Pro able to fix the problem? The error 'Invalid headers' means that there is a file on a small section of the hard drive partition that is corrupt and not reading properly. It is obvious that this file is a very important part of the OS.
The only way I know of to correct this problem is to Erase the entire drive, format it and then install.
Make sure you back up all your important files. Then insert the OS X CD, restart the computer and immediately hold down the C key. When You see the installer screen, release the c key. Do not click on the installer screen.
Instead, go to the Installer Menu and select Disk Utility. Now when that opens you want to select the second hard drive. What you will see is:
1st icon - First Hard Drive - your master original drive
2nd icon - The name of your hard drive - master
3rd icon - your second hard drive
4th icon - first partition
5th icon - second partition - maybe.
You want to click on the 3rd icon, then select the Erase tab. Erase the entire drive. You will get a warning, click on okay.
When done, click on partition. Here is where you can partition the drive to 40 GB & 40 GB. Make sure you have Install Mac OS 9 disk drivers selected under Options. You want to format it using Mac OS Extended, and you can name the partitions. (click on the first partition - type in your choice of name, click on second partition, type in name).
Click on okay.
When done, you now can install the OS. Quit Disk Utility and click on the Installer Screen to begin the installation. - Make sure you select the first partition drive to install.
You now should be computing smoothly after your install.
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
~obey - Mar 30, 2005 - 8:07 am
Thanks Cheryl for your words of wisdom. I'm in the middle of backing up all files that I can see on the drive. TechTool did nothing for my problem. However, I inserted my DiskWarrior CD and it is recognizing both partitions and asks me to rebuild them. So before I do that, I'm backing up all my files first, just in case something goes wrong.
In the event the DiskWarrior cannot find/fix the error, I will have no other choice but to follow your directions and erase the drive, then reinstall everything. I really hope it doesn't come down to that.
Thanks again. I will keep you updated.
Michael
In the event the DiskWarrior cannot find/fix the error, I will have no other choice but to follow your directions and erase the drive, then reinstall everything. I really hope it doesn't come down to that.
Thanks again. I will keep you updated.
Michael
Cheryl - Mar 30, 2005 - 4:39 pm
Michael,
I hope Disk Warrior can also fix the problem.
It is wise to back up your files periodically, which reminds me. I think I have to do mine soon. :-)
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Cheryl
I hope Disk Warrior can also fix the problem.
It is wise to back up your files periodically, which reminds me. I think I have to do mine soon. :-)
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
~obey - Mar 31, 2005 - 12:36 pm
Cheryl
DiskWarrior wasn't able to rebuild my drive. It has told me that the drive is too far damaged to rebuild. It gave me a couple of codes: 3004, 2176. Do these mean anything to you? I'm curious as to if someone with better file-recovery tools can still get my files off of there?
Thanks.
Michael
DiskWarrior wasn't able to rebuild my drive. It has told me that the drive is too far damaged to rebuild. It gave me a couple of codes: 3004, 2176. Do these mean anything to you? I'm curious as to if someone with better file-recovery tools can still get my files off of there?
Thanks.
Michael
Cheryl - Mar 31, 2005 - 4:46 pm
Michael,
I am not sure if you can rescue files that may be on the damaged block of the hard drive.
You can try File Salvage
http://www.subrosasoft.com/thestore/...roducts_id=429
If these files are images or movies you can try PhotoRecovery
http://www.lc-tech.com/photorecovery.htm
Note: if Disk Warrior can not fix those problems, the drive is seriously damaged. You might be able to reformat - Drive Format usually sees those bad blocks and can block them so they will not be used.
I am sorry, I have no clue what those codes are, but you can find out by filling out the form on this web site. The Disk Warrior techs should be able to tell you what they mean.
http://www.alsoft.com/techsupportform.html
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
I am not sure if you can rescue files that may be on the damaged block of the hard drive.
You can try File Salvage
http://www.subrosasoft.com/thestore/...roducts_id=429
If these files are images or movies you can try PhotoRecovery
http://www.lc-tech.com/photorecovery.htm
Note: if Disk Warrior can not fix those problems, the drive is seriously damaged. You might be able to reformat - Drive Format usually sees those bad blocks and can block them so they will not be used.
I am sorry, I have no clue what those codes are, but you can find out by filling out the form on this web site. The Disk Warrior techs should be able to tell you what they mean.
http://www.alsoft.com/techsupportform.html
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
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