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haverhillharry - Jun 3, 2006 - 10:10 am

I have bought a website and domain name from Yahoo! Geocities. The Geocities control page only offers some very poor page wizards or Page Builder to work with and their information says that Page Builder doesn't work with Mac.

I have bought Sandvox web-page creation software because it is a simple drag and drop system and I'm not at all techy.

When I go to the stage where I have to transfer information from my Mac Sandvox file to the web page to just get the page started, it asks me to set up my host and asks for the relevant ftp information. When it tries to test the connection it always times out and suggests I contact my IP. Yahoo Geocities than tell me that they can't tell me how to set up ftp on a Mac as they work with Windows and Navigator.

I have a G5 iMac running OSX 10.4.5.

I have bought Fetch as well but still can't figure out how to upload anything.

Can you tell me how I can get the site I have designed on Sandvox uploaded or, failing that, how I can get anything uploaded to my site? Can you do it in simple step-by step terms because I'm not the brightest thing on the block when it comes to computers?

frozendice - Jun 5, 2006 - 4:21 pm

Yahoo refusing to help you setup FTP on a mac is just crazy, they should have helped you setup the information, or at the very least confirmed that it was correct. I assume that the Sandvox program created .htm or .html files.
What you need to do to start a web page, is when somebody goes to http://www.yourdomain.com/ they will see the contents of the file named index.htm or index.html. Name your first page one of those, and modify links to the main page on all your other pages.
To upload your pages you have created open fetch. It should imediatly ask you for connection details. Under hostname, try typing the name of your domain, eg. yourdomain.com or ftp.yourdomain.com then for the username try your login username, if that doesn't work try loginname@yahoo.com the password should be your yahoo password.

Now if this doesn't work or you're just insanely confused, you can upload files to geocities without having to use a complicated FTP program at all. Simply follow these directions http://www.hartnell.edu/library/word...GeocitiesA.htm to upload your files via a simple webpage interface.

- Hope this helps, I noticed it was getting near the bottom and nobody else had answered so I tried my best.

haverhillharry - Jun 5, 2006 - 5:56 pm

Thanks. I'll try this when I get home tomorrow.

Yahoo gave me the addresses: host; alt host; user ID; password. However, when I try to set these up using either the Mac host set up process or Fetch, nothing happens. I just time out after a while without the connection being established.

The Sandvox stuff is stored under a file with the suffix .svxSite. Within that file the individual pages are shown in a side menu and the info on each shows them as .html files but I'm not sure yet if I can separate them out into individual page documents: I can't find a menu to let me do it yet. I'll try the variations you suggest and, if I get to the point where I'm desperate enough to redesign my pages (I've got music files embedded in the pages) I'll do the hartnell stuff.

If nothing works for me can I get back to you?

frozendice - Jun 5, 2006 - 7:07 pm

Yep, that's what we're here for. There should be an option somewhere maybe File, called Export or Publish. Look and see if you can find that, those options should give you the individual html files you need.

haverhillharry - Jun 7, 2006 - 4:22 pm

Thanks.

That worked really well for a while. I separated out the html files and used File Manager just as the hartnell instructions said.

Then when I created my subfolder to upload the media files (my MP3s of tunes I've done - the whole point of the site) Geocities file manager says you can't upload files over 5MB. Two of my MP3 files are 5.9MB and 6MB respectively.

Can you suggest anything?

Should I switch to another web space provider and will it cost me to transfer? Can I take my domain name with me?

frozendice - Jun 8, 2006 - 5:44 pm

Did you pay for the hosting provider or was it the free geocities host? If it's the normal geocities host (no paid monthly plan) and a domain, then you most likely can't upload 5+MB files ever. It's stupid, yes. Although you don't always have to host those files on your website, there's a huge list of free hosts, which let you host your files on their servers for free. I'll include a link to a list.

If you want to move to a paid or another free host, you can take your domain name with you. You'll have to transfer the domain to a company like godaddy.com. This doesn't mean you'll have to host with godaddy.com, but they will support your domain for a few dollars for the transfer. Talk to geocities about it and they may offer you something to keep you as a customer.

FREE FILE HOSTS
http://www.jdempsey.com/2005/12/08/f...toragesending/

haverhillharry - Jun 10, 2006 - 10:19 am

I signed up for GeocitiesPro so I'm paying. I contacted them about this and they said use Fetch and gave me the standard details about what info to enter but it still doesn't work.

I've just told them this by e-mail so I'll see what they come back with.

Thanks.

haverhillharry - Jun 16, 2006 - 12:54 pm

Well they didn't bother to come back so I've decided to ditch them and do what I should have done in the first place: set up a .Mac account, buy iLife and use iWeb.

Thanks for the support.