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fidel21 - Feb 6, 2006 - 7:14 am
Hi all, Is there any articles, or does anybody know how I can connect to another mac remotely. To backup stuff?
Thanks
Thanks
Natobasso - Feb 6, 2006 - 12:44 pm
Howdy!
Here's a great place to start:
http://www.pure-mac.com/remote.html
You can quickly set up ftp from your mac by going to System Prefs/File Sharing and starting FTP Access. You'll need to write down the ftp number of your system, your user name and password to gain access. Then any files you want to access should be in your "Drop" folder, I believe.
However, the Remote Access and other programs in the pure-mac article I listed give you even more access to your mac remotely.
Let me know if this helps.
Here's a great place to start:
http://www.pure-mac.com/remote.html
You can quickly set up ftp from your mac by going to System Prefs/File Sharing and starting FTP Access. You'll need to write down the ftp number of your system, your user name and password to gain access. Then any files you want to access should be in your "Drop" folder, I believe.
However, the Remote Access and other programs in the pure-mac article I listed give you even more access to your mac remotely.
Let me know if this helps.
fidel21 - Feb 6, 2006 - 2:39 pm
Thanks for replying so fast.
That's good advice, the only thing is I am getting confused. I understand the 'turning on ftp' in the sharing preferences. But could you tell me how do I access that folder remotley. Can I just type in like ftp:then my brothers ip (which he got from 'what'smyip.net) then/and the local address: ie 10.0.0.22 I can't seem to get the syntax correct. he has opened a port on his router also 55
how would it all look:
86.42.55.1/10.0.0.22/foldername
Dang this is confusing.
Don't I have to enter his username and password for his mac?
Or am I on the wrong thread completely. Ie: should I use somethimg like VNC and chicken of the VNC
You see what I am trying to do is back up some files over night using my bro's G5 through a firewalled router.
Hope this is not too much of a pain.
But thanks
That's good advice, the only thing is I am getting confused. I understand the 'turning on ftp' in the sharing preferences. But could you tell me how do I access that folder remotley. Can I just type in like ftp:then my brothers ip (which he got from 'what'smyip.net) then/and the local address: ie 10.0.0.22 I can't seem to get the syntax correct. he has opened a port on his router also 55
how would it all look:
86.42.55.1/10.0.0.22/foldername
Dang this is confusing.
Don't I have to enter his username and password for his mac?
Or am I on the wrong thread completely. Ie: should I use somethimg like VNC and chicken of the VNC
You see what I am trying to do is back up some files over night using my bro's G5 through a firewalled router.
Hope this is not too much of a pain.
But thanks
Natobasso - Feb 6, 2006 - 2:44 pm
No worries, mate!
I helped someone else with this very issue. Here's our discussion and resolution:
Backing up remotely from Work to Home?
On Jan 31, 11:20am fidel21 wrote:
Hi All,
Here is my problem. I have a mac at work and a mac at home. I have a really important folder of work at work and would like to back up maybe overnight to my home computer. I recently had a computer burn out on me and lost some data, I want to back up my work from now on.
Does anybody have any easy to understand articles at hand. I have bought a copy of Retrospect which I back up monthly to DVD but would like to automate it in the middle of the night. To my home computer.
I don't understand the ip address thing, altough I understand you have to know your ip address at home.
Any help is really appreciated.
Both running Tiger
Thanks
Tim
Response(s)
On Jan 31, 8:03pm Go3iverson. wrote
Retrospect is probably more than what you need. Grab a small, bus powered, firewire drive and you could just set up a script that clones your home directory to it at specific times. Set up two partitions and you could clone your work machine to one and the home machine to the other.
If you want to really get slick, go into the NetInfo database and change the records of your home directory to point to that mini firewire disk. You could run your home directory directly from it, just don't forget it at home!
Michael Dhaliwal, ACSA
www.district13computing.com
On Feb 1, 1:29am fidel21 wrote
Thanks for that info. But I was really interested in a remote backup. One that uses the web in the middle of the night. I have seen it in a couple of places but not sure how to set it up.
But thanks anyway
Tim
On Feb 1, 1:53am Natobasso. wrote
[TECH COMMENT] Howdy!
An article on mac to pc remote connection:
http://forums.osxfaq.com/viewtopic.php?t=8497
If you have Tiger you have VPN capability built in. Here's instructions on how to set it up, then run your back up by copying the files over:
http://www.macminicolo.net/Mac_VNC_tutor.html
If you don't have tiger there's this software mentioned on the macminicolo page:
http://www.redstonesoftware.com/vnc.html
Apple has Retrospect Desktop that you can program to send your back up files over the internet; I believe you could use your VPN connection to accomplish this, but not 100% sure:
http://guide.apple.com/action.lasso?...=29952&-search
Hope this helps.
On Feb 1, 7:40am Go3iverson. wrote
I have an entire white paper on data backup and recovery strategies on my site, www.district13computing.com, under the projects tab.
What you'd need is a tunnel between your home computer and your work computer, meaning going through the corporate firewall and to your desktop at home, which may or may not have a static IP. This may be a violation of your terms of service at home, but you could use something like DDNS to "assign" yourself a static DNS name to the IP you are using at home.
You'll want to look for something that supports data encryption, so that you aren't subjected to someone sniffing out your data and simply stealing it between your two locations. Products like Atempo include industry standard ciphers based on open source tools, but start with a price that won't be advantageous within your scope.
Besides spending cash, you could simply script something that takes your user data, copies it to a specified folder on your client machine at work, compresses it and secures it with an encrypted key. and uses an SSH tunnel, like SCP to copy the encrypted archive.
If you can create a VPN connection between your home and work machines, the secure tunnel is done for you. You could simply mount the volume over file sharing and replicate that way.
How much data are you looking to move?
On Feb 1, 7:54am fidel21 wrote
Intitially 2 gb then it will just be syncing any new work created. I mentioned I have retrospect, by Danzt it has the option of backing up over the net, but requires a complete address. I have fixed ip addresses both at work and at home. I have a modem router at both ends and with built in firewalls.
I can open a port on each as I have doe this before. I also setup ftp sharing on my home mac and it gave me this address message.
Other people can access your FTP server at ftp://192.168.0.3/ or browse for "Tim’s Mac Mini" by choosing Network from the Go menu in the Finder.
But how do I get to my home computer would it look like this:
86.213.56.56://192.168.0.3/then the path of my back up folder?
this is a made up ip address as I am at work and can't remember.
Sorry if I have confused thing but appriciate you help.
Tim
On Feb 1, 8:10am Go3iverson. wrote
No problems
So, you could use a router to handle this for you. For example, on my router, a linksys, I have a rule defined that any traffic on port 80 is tot be routed to a specific IP address on my internal network. You could do the same with your home configuration to accomplish what you are looking for. When Retrospect attempts to contact your home machine at your public IP address, it'll hit your router and the router will then route the data on the defined port to the internal IP address of the machine you have listed it to do so to....get me?
Example:
You type in www.district13computing.com. DNS is contacted to find out what that points to. Say it finds 17.219.x.x. The request is then made of 17.219.x.x to supply a response to a request on port 80. The router receives this request and sees the rule you created stating that port 80 data should be sent to 192.168.1.10, the web server. The request is routed to the machine at 192.168.1.10, which is equipped to fulfill the request. Make sense? In your case, though, you'd be doing straight IP it sounds like, so no DNS needed and you'd be using a different port, for Retrospect.
Hope this helps!
I helped someone else with this very issue. Here's our discussion and resolution:
Backing up remotely from Work to Home?
On Jan 31, 11:20am fidel21 wrote:
Hi All,
Here is my problem. I have a mac at work and a mac at home. I have a really important folder of work at work and would like to back up maybe overnight to my home computer. I recently had a computer burn out on me and lost some data, I want to back up my work from now on.
Does anybody have any easy to understand articles at hand. I have bought a copy of Retrospect which I back up monthly to DVD but would like to automate it in the middle of the night. To my home computer.
I don't understand the ip address thing, altough I understand you have to know your ip address at home.
Any help is really appreciated.
Both running Tiger
Thanks
Tim
Response(s)
On Jan 31, 8:03pm Go3iverson. wrote
Retrospect is probably more than what you need. Grab a small, bus powered, firewire drive and you could just set up a script that clones your home directory to it at specific times. Set up two partitions and you could clone your work machine to one and the home machine to the other.
If you want to really get slick, go into the NetInfo database and change the records of your home directory to point to that mini firewire disk. You could run your home directory directly from it, just don't forget it at home!
Michael Dhaliwal, ACSA
www.district13computing.com
On Feb 1, 1:29am fidel21 wrote
Thanks for that info. But I was really interested in a remote backup. One that uses the web in the middle of the night. I have seen it in a couple of places but not sure how to set it up.
But thanks anyway
Tim
On Feb 1, 1:53am Natobasso. wrote
[TECH COMMENT] Howdy!
An article on mac to pc remote connection:
http://forums.osxfaq.com/viewtopic.php?t=8497
If you have Tiger you have VPN capability built in. Here's instructions on how to set it up, then run your back up by copying the files over:
http://www.macminicolo.net/Mac_VNC_tutor.html
If you don't have tiger there's this software mentioned on the macminicolo page:
http://www.redstonesoftware.com/vnc.html
Apple has Retrospect Desktop that you can program to send your back up files over the internet; I believe you could use your VPN connection to accomplish this, but not 100% sure:
http://guide.apple.com/action.lasso?...=29952&-search
Hope this helps.
On Feb 1, 7:40am Go3iverson. wrote
I have an entire white paper on data backup and recovery strategies on my site, www.district13computing.com, under the projects tab.
What you'd need is a tunnel between your home computer and your work computer, meaning going through the corporate firewall and to your desktop at home, which may or may not have a static IP. This may be a violation of your terms of service at home, but you could use something like DDNS to "assign" yourself a static DNS name to the IP you are using at home.
You'll want to look for something that supports data encryption, so that you aren't subjected to someone sniffing out your data and simply stealing it between your two locations. Products like Atempo include industry standard ciphers based on open source tools, but start with a price that won't be advantageous within your scope.
Besides spending cash, you could simply script something that takes your user data, copies it to a specified folder on your client machine at work, compresses it and secures it with an encrypted key. and uses an SSH tunnel, like SCP to copy the encrypted archive.
If you can create a VPN connection between your home and work machines, the secure tunnel is done for you. You could simply mount the volume over file sharing and replicate that way.
How much data are you looking to move?
On Feb 1, 7:54am fidel21 wrote
Intitially 2 gb then it will just be syncing any new work created. I mentioned I have retrospect, by Danzt it has the option of backing up over the net, but requires a complete address. I have fixed ip addresses both at work and at home. I have a modem router at both ends and with built in firewalls.
I can open a port on each as I have doe this before. I also setup ftp sharing on my home mac and it gave me this address message.
Other people can access your FTP server at ftp://192.168.0.3/ or browse for "Tim’s Mac Mini" by choosing Network from the Go menu in the Finder.
But how do I get to my home computer would it look like this:
86.213.56.56://192.168.0.3/then the path of my back up folder?
this is a made up ip address as I am at work and can't remember.
Sorry if I have confused thing but appriciate you help.
Tim
On Feb 1, 8:10am Go3iverson. wrote
No problems
So, you could use a router to handle this for you. For example, on my router, a linksys, I have a rule defined that any traffic on port 80 is tot be routed to a specific IP address on my internal network. You could do the same with your home configuration to accomplish what you are looking for. When Retrospect attempts to contact your home machine at your public IP address, it'll hit your router and the router will then route the data on the defined port to the internal IP address of the machine you have listed it to do so to....get me?
Example:
You type in www.district13computing.com. DNS is contacted to find out what that points to. Say it finds 17.219.x.x. The request is then made of 17.219.x.x to supply a response to a request on port 80. The router receives this request and sees the rule you created stating that port 80 data should be sent to 192.168.1.10, the web server. The request is routed to the machine at 192.168.1.10, which is equipped to fulfill the request. Make sense? In your case, though, you'd be doing straight IP it sounds like, so no DNS needed and you'd be using a different port, for Retrospect.
Hope this helps!
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