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charles1 - Nov 21, 2005 - 1:25 pm
When I hold the Alt key (which I guess is the Option Key on a Microsoft keyboard) I get 3 choices. Some weird arrows and a OSX box. But I can't use the mouse and I can't tab or use the arrow keys. Who designs this stuff? Why don't they put some words on the screen to tell us what to do? Unbelievable.
DeltaMac - Nov 21, 2005 - 1:48 pm
That Option-boot screen does not work with all mouse-keyboard combinations. It WILL work with a wired Apple mouse and keyboard. It may not work with many wireless mouses, even Apple's bluetooth mouse does not always work at that screen. Best choice is to use a wired mouse and keyboard.
Just in explanation of that screen - the curly arrow means to reload that same screen, the right-facing arrow is Continue to boot with the selected volume. Any available booting volume should be displayed as another icon, with the name of that volume displayed also. Click on the volume that you wish to boot from and then click on the right-facing arrow.... There's no way to use that screen without a working mouse, AFAIK.
- Dale
Just in explanation of that screen - the curly arrow means to reload that same screen, the right-facing arrow is Continue to boot with the selected volume. Any available booting volume should be displayed as another icon, with the name of that volume displayed also. Click on the volume that you wish to boot from and then click on the right-facing arrow.... There's no way to use that screen without a working mouse, AFAIK.
- Dale
charles1 - Nov 21, 2005 - 4:47 pm
I'll make sure I use the Apple keyboard with these diagnostics.
"wireless mouses".....as you reread that you're saying "No way....I DIDN'T write that".........lol
Curly arrow: why would you want to reload the same screen? Is that from the Drpartment of Redundancy Department?
When you say "Click on the volume": I have no mouse. I'm using the MS Optical Trackball Explorer. I'll try a Apple one. That's probably the reason I cannot select anything.....duh.....I guess I'm not one of the brightest lights in the ceiling.......
Now suddenly my Pioneer DVR-106D burner isn't being recognized. Yet an old Matsushita DVD-ram is. I've checked the jumpers, tried Master and Slave though having everything on Cable Select worked flawlessly before, and the IDE pins on the drive look straight with none missing. It powers up, I can hear the disc spinning away upon startup but nothing is seen. Toast doesn't see it, System Profiler doesn't either and of course the disc in the burner isn't in the Finder under the hard drive like it usually is. I need to load an OS on to another drive - and can't til I get this cleared up. Any suggestions on this point especially would be greatly appreciated.
"wireless mouses".....as you reread that you're saying "No way....I DIDN'T write that".........lol
Curly arrow: why would you want to reload the same screen? Is that from the Drpartment of Redundancy Department?
When you say "Click on the volume": I have no mouse. I'm using the MS Optical Trackball Explorer. I'll try a Apple one. That's probably the reason I cannot select anything.....duh.....I guess I'm not one of the brightest lights in the ceiling.......
Now suddenly my Pioneer DVR-106D burner isn't being recognized. Yet an old Matsushita DVD-ram is. I've checked the jumpers, tried Master and Slave though having everything on Cable Select worked flawlessly before, and the IDE pins on the drive look straight with none missing. It powers up, I can hear the disc spinning away upon startup but nothing is seen. Toast doesn't see it, System Profiler doesn't either and of course the disc in the burner isn't in the Finder under the hard drive like it usually is. I need to load an OS on to another drive - and can't til I get this cleared up. Any suggestions on this point especially would be greatly appreciated.
DeltaMac - Nov 21, 2005 - 5:34 pm
Not trying to be too pedantic, but I have always used mouses as the plural for a computer mouse - because, I can only use one at a time, but can have more than one mouse hooked up - so, mouses, not mice. It's listed that way in the dictionary for computer mouses (honestly).
You reload the same screen so that updated information then loads (plugging in an additional drive/etc. This is the same reason for a reload button on a web page... I try not to be repetitiously redundant. A mouse or a trackball/trackpad will all both a select button of some kind. I use the term mouse interchangeably with most pointing devices. You will have at least a right or left button. 'Clicking' would usually refer to the left button, or just the button if you have a single button mouse.
If you still need help with your drive issue, give me more details about your Mac (model/memory installed/OS version and whatever else you want to provide...
- Dale
You reload the same screen so that updated information then loads (plugging in an additional drive/etc. This is the same reason for a reload button on a web page... I try not to be repetitiously redundant. A mouse or a trackball/trackpad will all both a select button of some kind. I use the term mouse interchangeably with most pointing devices. You will have at least a right or left button. 'Clicking' would usually refer to the left button, or just the button if you have a single button mouse.
If you still need help with your drive issue, give me more details about your Mac (model/memory installed/OS version and whatever else you want to provide...
- Dale
charles1 - Nov 21, 2005 - 8:05 pm
I'll take your word for it - if you say its in the dictionary It probably is! Sounds unique, that's for sure.
One problem is that I never really understood the options that were supposed to be available to me with the diagnositic type startup options. That's why I'm not following you on this thread very well.
Back to work I go. Thanks to you and several others, I'm making great progress in this world of Apple. Many thanks. Haven't had time to go through all the rebooting stuff yet. Hopefully later tonight. And I need to read, read read. I downloaded tons of manuals, guides, ebooks on Mac. But it didn't quite sink in that's a lot harder to digest it than to download it. What a pity....
One problem is that I never really understood the options that were supposed to be available to me with the diagnositic type startup options. That's why I'm not following you on this thread very well.
Back to work I go. Thanks to you and several others, I'm making great progress in this world of Apple. Many thanks. Haven't had time to go through all the rebooting stuff yet. Hopefully later tonight. And I need to read, read read. I downloaded tons of manuals, guides, ebooks on Mac. But it didn't quite sink in that's a lot harder to digest it than to download it. What a pity....
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