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WCGilbert - Aug 28, 2006 - 12:08 pm

When using Tomato Torrent to download files, I get great download, but no upload. After the download was finished, I let it sit, with 0 upload. I have tried other torrents and other torrent programs, all to no avail. I know that it should be uploading because the files I downloaded were very high demand with lots of peers and seeders. I recently moved and set up a new airport extreme but before I moved, I was also on an Airport extreme and had no problems uploading. I have port forwarding on, and it worked before, but I'm not sure if it is set up correctly for my new situation. The port that I'm using is 6881, and the IP being the same as my router (I got the IP from the sys prefs under network, configure, TCP/IP, then router, under "using DHCP." The place where I get my torrents requires upload, so I really need to know why it will not do so. Firewall is not on, personal file sharing is on. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Cooper

- Aug 29, 2006 - 3:55 am

Double check port forwarding. Thats where the problem is. Also check the firewall setting in system preferences.

vinko - Aug 29, 2006 - 3:58 am

Dear Cooper,

My name is Vinko and I will attempt to assist you.

Please note that you should not be using the same IP address for the "port forwarding" as the "IP address of your router".

The IP address you should be entering in the Airport Admin Utility's Port Fowarding panel is the IP address that your Airport Extreme (your router) is assigning your Mac. The first 3 groups of numbers should be the same as that of your router's IP address, but the last one should be different.

Also, although port 6881 - 6999 are standard TCP and UDP ranges used by bittorrent applications. You should instead choose a ports that is in the range from 49152 to 65535. This is because sometime your ISP are blocking outgoing traffic from the standard bittorrent ports range.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

-- Vinko

Thank you for using MacOSX.Com's free Mac support.

WCGilbert - Aug 30, 2006 - 12:51 pm

I tried 49152 as the port like you suggested, but I still don't get any upload. I also changed the IP address from the one listed as "router" in the sys pref. to the one listed as "IP" assuming that meant that it was the IP address assigned to the computer by the router. Having done all of that, I still have no upload.

vinko - Aug 30, 2006 - 5:41 pm

Dear Cooper,

Thank you for your reply.

BTW: you should have Firewall turned on locally on your Mac. You should add the custom port you've chosen for Bittorrent (both UDP and TCP) if you do have it turned on. This is especially important if you are using any sort of Bittorrent software.

Please show me the IP address of your Router (Airport Extreme) and the IP address you have entered in the Port Forwarding pane of the Airport Admin Utility. The latter should be the IP address you have retrieved from your Network preference.

Lastly your ISP may still be figuring out that you are using Bittorrent and blocking the traffic.

I understand you may not be able to for these particular files in question, but have you tried other Bittorrent clients (ie. Azureus, etc.).

Regards,

-- Vinko

WCGilbert - Aug 30, 2006 - 5:51 pm

The IP of my router in the sys. prefs is 10.0.1.1 and the IP that I used for the port forwarding is 10.0.1.2. If what you say is true, that my ISP may be blocking the upload because they disapprove of torrent sharing, wouldn't they block the downloading as well? I have been waiting to turn my firewall on until the uploading works, but when I do turn it on, should I enter the same ports for TCP and UDP. As to your last question, I tried using traditional BitTorrent and Acquisition, both with no success. I have ATT Yahoo High Speed DSL, are they known for blocking torrent sharing?

vinko - Aug 30, 2006 - 6:05 pm

Dear Cooper,

Thank you for your reply.

As long as the 10.0.1.2 is the IP address shown in your Network preference's IP Address field then it is correct for your Port forwarding.

Yes, you should enter the same port number for both UDP and TCP in the Firewall settings.

ISP and all other Coyrights authority at the moment are only focused on the uploaders of file. Plus uploading generates much more traffic for a particular IP address than downloading, depending on the popularity of the file.

What you can do is inquire with your ISP directly, since it is not illegal to use Bittorrent or any kind of P2P software. It is only illegal if you download copyright software.

Regards,

-- Vinko

WCGilbert - Aug 30, 2006 - 6:09 pm

If the ISP is blocking my uploading, am I just out of luck or is there some action that I can take to either circumvent their control or appease it?

vinko - Aug 30, 2006 - 6:20 pm

Dear Cooper,

Unforunately, if your ISP admits or not in blocking Bittorrent traffic, I believe there is nothing you can do.

Regards,

-- Vinko

WCGilbert - Aug 31, 2006 - 8:18 am

I tried a torrent from a different site, and I got a very slight upload (.4 K/s). This would seem to say that my ISP isn't preventing me from uploading. Is there a reason that the speed of upload would be so slow?

vinko - Aug 31, 2006 - 6:40 pm

Dear Cooper,

Thank you for your reply.

The reason for the slow upload could be for many reasons:

• the file is not that popular, you know whether it is


• there is congestion in the Internet


• your ISP is throttling your traffic

Please understand that ISP has many tools in their arsenal to prevent or stop bittorrent traffic through their network. Of course blocking popular TCP and UDP ports are just one of the basic technique. There are also traffic analyzers that can identify these traffic for the ISP.

It is best for you to at least ask the ISP up front whether they are doing it or not. Yes, the ISP may not tell you the truth, but at least you asked.

Regards,

-- Vinko