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wkleung - May 26, 2005 - 8:11 pm
How to set the third WEP key for iBook G4, as my access point encryption using the third key encryption, but i only can be set the only 1 WEP for my iBook.
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Natobasso - May 27, 2005 - 7:23 pm
Hello! I think you aren't asking the right question. Here's why:
WEP Keys aren't set by or on computers, they are set on wireless broadcasting devices.
So, I think you should set the WEP on your wireless device (usually you need to be plugged in with an ethernet cable to your hub and then access the wireless device via web) and then enter that WEP code when you access your wireless network. Your computer should remember that code whenever you turn airport on.
Let me know if this helps.
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Nat
flikworld.com
WEP Keys aren't set by or on computers, they are set on wireless broadcasting devices.
So, I think you should set the WEP on your wireless device (usually you need to be plugged in with an ethernet cable to your hub and then access the wireless device via web) and then enter that WEP code when you access your wireless network. Your computer should remember that code whenever you turn airport on.
Let me know if this helps.
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Nat
flikworld.com
wkleung - May 28, 2005 - 2:32 pm
thanks for your help. But there have some misunderstanding...my company using cisco aironet 340 Access Point and the encryption WEP key is using the third one and already set by IT department..For IBM notebook..there have a 4 WEP key entry, when i type the correct wireless Network ID and the third WEP encryption key, I can access the net by wireless...but when I using my iBook..even I type the correct Network ID and WEP key, I can receive the wireless signle but can't get the correct IP...after I consult with my IT department...they said I need to set the third WEP but not the first one....but I can't find any option for me to choose in airport setting...
Natobasso - May 28, 2005 - 6:03 pm
Sorry, but I have to admit I'm having trouble understanding you. 
I think you have an issue accessing their network and you might need a password and login separate from your internet protocols, especially if you're on a PC. Sounds like you need more technical help so I am going to put your question back on the forum for someone else to tackle.
Sorry I couldn't help more.
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Nathaniel
Freelance Designer/flikWORLD Design
Junior IT
I think you have an issue accessing their network and you might need a password and login separate from your internet protocols, especially if you're on a PC. Sounds like you need more technical help so I am going to put your question back on the forum for someone else to tackle.
Sorry I couldn't help more.
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Nathaniel
Freelance Designer/flikWORLD Design
Junior IT
vinko - May 29, 2005 - 11:34 am
Dear WK,
My name is Vinko and I will attempt to answer your question.
I believe you may be confused by your company admin (IT Department). There is only one WEP key, which form of WEP key used is dependent on your company admin's setting. I do not remember the different WEP types (ie. ASCII, HEX, etc.) and what order they are in within Windows. By saying the "third WEP key entry" you are talking about a Windows specific orientation, if you look on your IBM notebook at the 3rd WEP key field you will see the type of this WEP key. That is the type of WEP your company is using. You should be referring to this rather than the phase "3rd WEP key".
Correctly so, Apple does not confuse the use with the different choices of WEP key types from the client, it simply ask you to enter the WEP password.
As for not able to get the correct IP address, but able to connect to the Wireless network may be caused by the company's Wireless Access device not having your iBook's MAC address recorded in its list.
MAC address is the unique Ethernet address that is assigned to any Ethernet device. For the AirPort device inside your iBook, this MAC address can be found in the Airport panel within the Network Preferences.
Open the Network Prefrences, ensure that the Show popup menu is set to AirPort, then click on the AirPort panel. Your MAC address is the "Airport ID". This should be given to your company admin and included in their Wireless Access Point authorized list of devices.
I hope this helps.
-- Vinko
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My name is Vinko and I will attempt to answer your question.
I believe you may be confused by your company admin (IT Department). There is only one WEP key, which form of WEP key used is dependent on your company admin's setting. I do not remember the different WEP types (ie. ASCII, HEX, etc.) and what order they are in within Windows. By saying the "third WEP key entry" you are talking about a Windows specific orientation, if you look on your IBM notebook at the 3rd WEP key field you will see the type of this WEP key. That is the type of WEP your company is using. You should be referring to this rather than the phase "3rd WEP key".
Correctly so, Apple does not confuse the use with the different choices of WEP key types from the client, it simply ask you to enter the WEP password.
As for not able to get the correct IP address, but able to connect to the Wireless network may be caused by the company's Wireless Access device not having your iBook's MAC address recorded in its list.
MAC address is the unique Ethernet address that is assigned to any Ethernet device. For the AirPort device inside your iBook, this MAC address can be found in the Airport panel within the Network Preferences.
Open the Network Prefrences, ensure that the Show popup menu is set to AirPort, then click on the AirPort panel. Your MAC address is the "Airport ID". This should be given to your company admin and included in their Wireless Access Point authorized list of devices.
I hope this helps.
-- Vinko
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wkleung - May 29, 2005 - 9:40 pm
thank you so much, I will ask my company IT for more information. thanks a lot
vinko - May 31, 2005 - 1:00 am
Dear Wk,
Thank you for your reply.
Please don't forget to report back your findings. We are all learning here, so any additional information to any problems will help future users.
Thanks!
-- Vinko
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Thank you for your reply.
Please don't forget to report back your findings. We are all learning here, so any additional information to any problems will help future users.
Thanks!
-- Vinko
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wkleung - May 31, 2005 - 4:52 am
Dear Vinko,
I am sorry to tell you that the methods you have mentioned is not work. And I have found another solution, but it not work either. I have found some people said cisco is using HEX but airport is using ASCII for the WEP, to solve the problem just add a magic symbol "$" in front of the WEP key but it is not suitable for my case....
I performed some test, I found that when i set no WEP encryption or using the first WEP encryption key for the wireless device, I can get DHCP and received the signal, after I change to the 3rd key encryption..the problem will exist..so i think is the wep exchange problem between airport express and cisco aironet. And I still find the solution for this issue..I will post my findings afterward
Thanks for your help
WK Leung
I am sorry to tell you that the methods you have mentioned is not work. And I have found another solution, but it not work either. I have found some people said cisco is using HEX but airport is using ASCII for the WEP, to solve the problem just add a magic symbol "$" in front of the WEP key but it is not suitable for my case....
I performed some test, I found that when i set no WEP encryption or using the first WEP encryption key for the wireless device, I can get DHCP and received the signal, after I change to the 3rd key encryption..the problem will exist..so i think is the wep exchange problem between airport express and cisco aironet. And I still find the solution for this issue..I will post my findings afterward
Thanks for your help
WK Leung
vinko - May 31, 2005 - 12:45 pm
Dear WK,
Thank you for your reply.
What do you mean, "... the methods you have mentioned is not work."? My reply to you had only asked you to ask your company Admin to add your iBook's MAC address to the Wireless Access Point's authorized list. Was this done? Is it currently set?
Did your Admin confirm or unconfirm the use of MAC address on the Access Point?
As for your WEP issue. For WEP encryptions there are 64bit (40 bits key) and 128bit (104 bits key) supported by most Wireless Network. With most admin foregoing the 64bit and use only 128bit encryptions. There are also 2 other level of encryptions, but anything that is 128bit or higher are not official part of the standard, therefore it is up to the implementation fo the manufacture of the Access Point.
For 128bit encryption, there should be 26 HEX decimal in your key or 13 ASCII characters. Since most humans do not speak HEX, that is why Apple accepts ASCII characters in its password for wireless networks and converts it to the HEX equivalent when the Access point request it.
Please allow me to correct a comment in my previous reply regarding the WEP Key 1, WEP Key 2, WEP Key 3, WEP Key 4, there can only be one active at a time on a given Wireless Network, so if your admin is telling you to use WEP Key 3, that's is the WEP Key that is "Active" on your Wireless Network you're tring to connect to. What you need is the ASCII equivalent of the WEP Key 3 for you to enter into your iBook AirPort password field.
BTW: "AirPort Express" is a different product from Apple which allows you to either stream iTunes music remotely, create a Wireless Network or bridge an existing wirelesss network (WDS) to extend its range. The AirPort device in your iBook is either an "AirPort card" or an "AirPort Extreme card". The former supports 802.11b protocol and the latter supports both 802.11b and the faster 802.11g protocols.
I hope this helps.
-- Vinko
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Thank you for your reply.
What do you mean, "... the methods you have mentioned is not work."? My reply to you had only asked you to ask your company Admin to add your iBook's MAC address to the Wireless Access Point's authorized list. Was this done? Is it currently set?
Did your Admin confirm or unconfirm the use of MAC address on the Access Point?
As for your WEP issue. For WEP encryptions there are 64bit (40 bits key) and 128bit (104 bits key) supported by most Wireless Network. With most admin foregoing the 64bit and use only 128bit encryptions. There are also 2 other level of encryptions, but anything that is 128bit or higher are not official part of the standard, therefore it is up to the implementation fo the manufacture of the Access Point.
For 128bit encryption, there should be 26 HEX decimal in your key or 13 ASCII characters. Since most humans do not speak HEX, that is why Apple accepts ASCII characters in its password for wireless networks and converts it to the HEX equivalent when the Access point request it.
Please allow me to correct a comment in my previous reply regarding the WEP Key 1, WEP Key 2, WEP Key 3, WEP Key 4, there can only be one active at a time on a given Wireless Network, so if your admin is telling you to use WEP Key 3, that's is the WEP Key that is "Active" on your Wireless Network you're tring to connect to. What you need is the ASCII equivalent of the WEP Key 3 for you to enter into your iBook AirPort password field.
BTW: "AirPort Express" is a different product from Apple which allows you to either stream iTunes music remotely, create a Wireless Network or bridge an existing wirelesss network (WDS) to extend its range. The AirPort device in your iBook is either an "AirPort card" or an "AirPort Extreme card". The former supports 802.11b protocol and the latter supports both 802.11b and the faster 802.11g protocols.
I hope this helps.
-- Vinko
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